[OPE-L:4807] Re: Re: modified significance of the cost price

From: Fred B. Moseley (fmoseley@mtholyoke.edu)
Date: Mon Jan 29 2001 - 14:53:00 EST


Rakesh, thanks for your clarification.  I started teaching today (three
classes this semester), so it will probably be a few days before I get
back to our discussion, which I look forward to.  Fred


On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Rakesh Narpat Bhandari wrote:

> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 12:14:35 -0800
> From: Rakesh Narpat Bhandari <rakeshb@Stanford.EDU>
> Reply-To: ope-l@galaxy.csuchico.edu
> To: ope-l@galaxy.csuchico.edu
> Subject: [OPE-L:4799] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: modified significance of the
>     cost price
> 
> Fred writes in 4798:
> 
> >Rakesh, let me try to make sure I understand what you have been
> >saying.  Maybe there is more agreement than I have appreciated.  I have
> >been thinking some more about your "retracting criticisms of Fred" and
> >"conceding defeat". 
> >
> >You seem to agree with me that, in Marx's theory of prices of production,
> >the inputs of constant capital and variable capital are already in money
> >terms and are equal to the price of production of the MP and MS.  In other
> >words, you agree with me that Marx himself, in his theory of prices of
> >production, DID NOT FAIL to transform the inputs of constant capital and
> >variable capital from values to prices of production (as alleged by the
> >standard criticism of Marx's theory), right?
> 
> 
> Yes.
> 
> 
> >If so, then this is a very significant agreement.
> 
> I think so too.
> 
> >
> >
> >However, where we disagree is that you argue that Marx made THE OPPOSITE
> >MISTAKE than in the standard critique.  Rather than failing to transform
> >the inputs from values to prices of production in the determination of the
> >prices of production of outputs, Marx failed to make the OPPOSITE
> >TRANSFORMATION (i.e. an "inverse transformation"); that is, he failed to
> >transform the prices of production of inputs BACKWARD from prices of
> >production to values in the determination of the values of outputs. 
> >
> >Rakesh, do I understand you correctly?
> 
> 
> So much so that you have articulated my point better than I have. I 
> have also accepted your earlier description of my interpretation as 
> an inverse transformation problem.
> 
> 
> >Thanks very much in advance for you clarification.  I look forward to
> >further discussion and perhaps even to greater agreement.
> >
> >Comradely,
> >Fred
> >
> >
> >P.S.  Based on my (4796) and your (4797), do you also agree that when Marx
> >discussed the "value" of commodities in Capital (e.g. in Parts 1 and 2 of
> >Volume 3 that we have been discussing) that he almost always means money
> >or prices (i.e. the monetary expression of value)?  Do we agree that
> >Marx's theory of value and surplus-value is about quantities of
> >money-capital in circulation (M - C ... M'), not about quantities of
> >labor-time which are only illustrated by money?
> 
> 
> I think you are correct here as well.
> 
> 
> 
> >  Marx's theory of value
> >and surplus-value may be about "simple" or "direct" prices (that is a
> >separate issue), but at least it is about prices, right?  Thanks again.
> 
> 
> Absolutely.
> 
> Comradely, Rakesh
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