From: Fred Moseley (fmoseley@MTHOLYOKE.EDU)
Date: Sat Jun 19 2004 - 23:25:14 EDT
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004, Allin Cottrell wrote: > On Mon, 14 Jun 2004, Ian Wright wrote (well, actually he quoted Phil > Dunn as writing): > > > > Homogeneous labour-power and labour can also be measured by money. > > Could anyone explain this idea (I don't think it's specific to Phil)? > I confess it makes no sense to me. How does money "measure" anything? Marx discussed the concept of money as "measure of value" in Chapter 3, Section 1 of Volume 1. According to Marx's theory of money, derived earlier in Section 3 of Chapter 1, money is the "necessary form of appearance" of the socially necessary labor-time (SNLT) contained in commodities. In other words, the SNLT contained in commodities is "objectively expressed" in terms of the quantity of the money commodity that contains the same amount of labor-time. Therefore, it is in this sense that money is described as the "measure of value" in Section 1 of Chapter 3 - in the sense of an indirect measure of the quantities of SNLT contained in commodities in terms of the the quantity of the money commodity that contains the same amount of labor-time Marx said it is analogous to iron functioning as the "measure of weight" - quantities of iron function as the indirect measure of the weight of other objects (pp. 148-49). > Is this an ellipsis for "[short-run equilibrium] price measures > labour-time", in the sense that the quantity of money people are > willing to pay for a commodity retrospectively determines the degree > to which the labour that went into its production is/was socially > necessary? (That I can understand, though I disagree with it.) > > Allin Cottrell No, this is not what Marx meant by money as "measure of value" (as explained above), but you raise an interesting question. I think we need to distinguish between two different definitions of SNLT: SNLT(1): the definition given by Marx in Chapter 1, which is the labor-time required to produce one, single UNIT of a commodity. SNLT(1) is what determines the long-run average price of a unit of the commodity. SNLT(2): the total quantity of labor-time required to produce the total quantity of a given commodity, when that total quantity is equal to the social demand for that commodity. Algebraically: SNLT(2) = Q x SNLT(1) where Q is the equilibrium quantity of this commodity, i.e. the quantity at which S = D. Demand determines Q and thus affects SNLT(2). But demand does not affect SNLT(1), which is determined entirely by production conditions. For example, if the supply of a commodity were greater than the demand, i.e. if the actual labor allocated to a given industry were greater than SNLT(2), then the actual quantity of labor would count as only SNLT(2). But this would not affect SNLT(1), which continues to be determined by production conditions. Comradely, Fred
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