----- Original Message ----- From: "Jurriaan Bendien" <j.bendien@wolmail.nl> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 6:00 PM Subject: [OPE-L: 7231] individual capitalist behaviour {was: Marx on human problems] Hi Jerry, Thanks for the comment. I can only reply briefly unfortunately. As regards the Marx quote I mentioned, I really wanted to write something more profound about it because I think that far from being unsubstantiated assertion it is part of Marx's unique approach and method. Unfortunately I do not have my library anymore so I cannot refer to the relevant passages I needed. Already in his youth, Marx muses about the "issues of the day", the "questions of an epoch". He says each period of history throws up its own riddles, questions and (putative) solutions, and to get anywhere with social analysis we need to take those riddles, issues, questions and solutions and analyse them critically, reframe them in order to get at the heart of the matter. Marx's point is that what is really the matter is obscured by ideological distortions of various kinds. Once we reframe the problems posed in a rational way, we discover that they already contain the terms of their own solution, but this solution is maybe not something people want to see, or own up to, precisely in function of their class interests or private interests, or their ideological delusions. So in a way, the social scientist has to be a kind of "therapist" who through critical inquiry uncovers what is really the matter and then clarifies what the solution is. In this sense, Marx says to Arnold Ruge, "we don't go around shouting to people, stop your struggles, they are stupid, we want to shout the true slogan at you - rather we develop new principles to the world out of its own principles, and consciousness will change whether people like it or not, through changes in material circumstances". That is really part of Marx's unique approach. About his book Capital, Marx said "I said very little that was really new, I did not innovate a great deal". All he did was to study the sources and creatively and critically reframe the literature in order the illuminate the heart of the matter, the core of the issue or however you like to call that thing. He even when so far as to use copious footnotes, unusual for his time, in order to indicate who said it first and who said it already. The strength of his method was not its originality but the fact that he based himself heavily on what all the authorities had already said. When Marx talks about "mankind inevitably sets itself only such tasks as it can solve", he is continuing this train of thought. He distinguishes very clearly between the real objective problems people face in practical, material reality, and the ideological way in which those problems are reflected in human awareness. Those reflections are not false as such, only distorted or one-sided, reified or biased by sectional interests. So people often do not want to think their ideas through to their conclusion, because if they did that they would arrive at solutions that they could not live with or which are against their sectional interest. Nevertheless people are "driven" to the real conclusion eventually, sooner or later, by the changes in their material and social circumstances. What the social scientist is supposed to do, is to point out what the real problems and solutions in society are and so enable people to "make history" less stupidly and more intelligently. Of course, Marx was "above all a revolutionist" and so he drives his argument to revolutionary conclusions which people may not accept until they are "driven" to those conclusions by the changes in material and social conditions. As Trotsky points out in his history of the Russian revolution, very few people actually desire a social revolution, rather they driven on to the path of revolution by material conditions which have become unbearable and intolerable. In fact people will do an awful lot to stave off a revolution, until they cannot stave it off anymore because the conditions cry out "hic Rhodes, hic Salta" (Marx's formula). Now as to your new points: the professional investor as a speculator is usually completely orientated to getting the maximum rate of return, he doesn't mind if he makes his profit from a truckload of oranges or the sale of a house, and what people end up doing with those resources is no great concern of his. Nevertheless even the profesional investor or speculator is still vitally interested in "use-values" because it is part of his market knowledge, he needs to know what sells where and why at what time. Of course, the bourgeoisie as a class contains many different divisions and strata. But they are all interested in the use-value of products. So what I am saying is that this idea that capitalists are indifferent to the use-values they produce is just a hoary myth, which arises out of a stunted, infantile reading of Marx's unfinished writings. Only very few Marxists have pricked through that myth, for example Roman Rosdolsky in his essay "The role of use-value in political economy". Ben Fine has written a book about the sphere of consumption, and so forth. You are best off to abandon this myth. You can talk all you like about "levels of abstraction", "individual capitalists" and "cultural/ emotional attachment to the product or branch of activity" etc. but the real point is that NO real capitalists are indifferent to the use-values being produced and sold, ultimately precisely in function of the quest for surplus value. Hence also phenomena such as "quality circles", "total quality management", "after-sales service", "trade associations", "customer and public relations", "marketing and marketing research", "product knowledge training", "advertising", "new economy" and so on and so on. If he could, the capitalist would like to get right inside the consumer, under his skin as it were, in order to determine his consumer behaviour. The consumer not infrequently has to defend himself against this. If anybody is "indifferent" it is more likely to be the Fordist or post-Fordist worker who day after day has to crank out commodities for which he personally maybe doesn't really care a hoot. What capitalist management tries to do, is to make sure that the worker "cares" about the product being produced and sold, sufficiently so that it is produced well, fast and sold in large quantities. Far from being irrelevant, the so-called "use-value" of commodities is a contested terrain, a site of class conflict... right down to the use-value of labour power as a commodity itself. What is the process of so-called "commodification" if not the commodification of use-values ? Why should we leave the subject to the sociological speculations of Pierre Bourdieu and people like that ? Of course you can twist what I say into an apology for capitalism, to the effect that the operation of the capitalist market system meets human needs remarkably well, presenting the right product at the right time for the right price to the consumer, but I am not arguing that. It is difficult to believe when a billion people are jobless and many more live in brutal poverty, when the environment is polluted and destroyed, when people become so alienated that they are confused about what their real needs are, and so forth. Market signals are not so "efficient" as von Hayek makes them out to be, in the real world. But anybody knows this already, the point is that we have to think about socialist economic relations and how they could be more efficient and effective. As regards my statement that capitalists are concerned about the social consequences of their actions, this is especially true for large corporations which have a big effect on the society they operate in. They cannot very well ignore the state, politics, population and the legal system of the countries they operate in, and they have to concern themselves with all sorts of social issues. Just study the behaviour of e.g. Monsanto or IBM or Microsoft for example. You can say they have this concern with definite private motives, or that they don't have the right concerns, but you cannot say that they are not concerned with, or unaware, of the social consequences of their activities. That is just an infantile Marxism. I can assure you that I have assiduously studied Marx's Capital and other writings, plus all the important commentaries. But that does not mean that we don't have to do our own thinking. It doesn't mean we should take what Marx says as holy writ. If anything, I am a little disappointed by how literally many Marxists have interpreted his work in the previous century, rather than develop new critiques and analyses which go beyond Marx, and which address the real issue, namely the transformation of capitalist relations into socialist relations. Regards Jurriaan
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