From: John Holloway (johnholloway@prodigy.net.mx)
Date: Wed Oct 30 2002 - 23:25:57 EST
Rakesh, Many thanks for your comments. I haven't read Bergson, but have been aware that I ought to. I hope I can get around to it soon. In relation to value, it does seem to me that the labour theory of value is above all a critique of the object's negation of the subject which created it. (If the recently much discussed VFT - value form theory - does not mean this, then surely it ought to.) This surely also means a critique of the notion that an object has a durable existence independent of the labour which creates and re-creates it (through use), a critique, therefore of duration. I suspect the critique of value can be extended to a critique of nouns in general, since nouns deny the verbs which constitute them. This would make communism the movement of verbs against nouns - a self-determining society, in other words. John ---------- >From: Rakesh Bhandari <rakeshb@stanford.edu> >To: ope-l@galaxy.csuchico.edu >Subject: [OPE-L:7872] John Holloway on time >Date: Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 7:08 PM > >thanks to Jerry for the commoner website. > >Time to Revolt > >Reflections on Empire (1) > >John Holloway > >(October 2002) > > > >>The negation of doing is the homogenisation of time. To deny >>social-purposive doing is to subordinate doing to being, to that >>which is. The doing of today is subordinated to the doing of >>yesterday, the doing of tomorrow can only be conceived as a >>continuation of the doing of today. Time then becomes tick-tick >>time, clock time, like a length of railway track. Tick-tick time >>measures duration, a being separated from doing, an existence >>separated from constitution. Capitalism is the separating of objects >>from their subjects, of things which are from the doing that made >>them, of existence from constitution. This separating creates >>duration, the notion that things 'are', independent of the doing >>which created them. Value, for instance, appears to have an >>existence independent of the self-divided doing which created it: >>Marx's Capital (the labour theory of value) is above all an attack >>on duration, a critique of the separation of existence and >>constitution, a restoration in thought of the doing denied by >>duration. >>One of the great advantages of this homogeneous time, duration-time, >>is that it can be broken up into periods, into lengths of time. This >>is crucial to the organisation of work in the factory and in the >>office and in the schools and universities. Homogeneous time is >>crucial in the organising of the doing of others for whom doing is >>purpose-less, object-less labour. But it goes further than that. It >>permeates our social thought, the way we shape and think about our >>social relations. Time becomes stodgy, almost solid, something that >>can be cut into wedges, into periods, into paradigms, a million >>miles removed from the timeless-time of intense love or engagement. >>But communism, a world in which we shape our own doing, a world in >>which doing is emancipated from being, a world in which doing and >>being, constitution and existence are explicitly reunited, can then >>be conceived only as a world in which we break the homogeneity of >>time, a world in which duration is shattered, in which time is not a >>long railway track or a slice of pizza, but tends towards the >>intensity of the Jetztzeit (now-time) of Benjamin (1973) or the nunc >>stans of Bloch (1964), towards the timeless-time of all-absorbing >>love or engagement. > >An interesting comparison here may be with Henri Bergson who >constrasted homogeneous time with what he meant by duration, a >notoriously elusive but key concept for which a flowing melody was >used as an example of the interpenetration of the only apparently >spatially separate past, present and future. John treats homogeneous >time and duration as synonyms, though I wonder whether he has the >same distinction as Bergson's in mind? >John's work raises so many questions. I am only now beginning to >think through his very stimulating work. Of course approaching John's >comments here through the work of Bergson may not be very >illuminating. But I was just reminded of him because of John's usage >of homogeneous time and duration and because I had been reading a >draft of a chapter on Bergsonian vitalism. So this may well be a >false lead. >Yours, Rakesh > > > >
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