From: gerald_a_levy (gerald_a_levy@msn.com)
Date: Wed Mar 12 2003 - 12:06:38 EST
Re Rakesh's [8577]: > As far as I can tell, neither Fred nor Gary has cited evidence from > Marx against the TSS breaking of the input=output price > assumption (Ernst, Carchedi, Freeman, Kliman). Fred is on sabbatical so it may be a while before he answers. As for your assertion above, don't you remember the posts by Fred on OPE-L where he cited textual evidence from Marx's writings about what can cause a change in prices of production? In that discussion, Fred cited evidence from Marx contra the Kliman-McGlone treatment of PoP in their transformation article. Don't you remember what came to be called the "smoking gun quotation" cited by Fred from Volume 3 about there being "only two reasons" for a change of PoP (see 4908 from February, 2001)? Fred's paper on "long-run center-of-gravity prices" (subtitle), it should be recalled, is titled "Marx's Concept of Prices of Production" ( http://www.mtholyoke.edu/~fmoseley/lrcgpric.html ). It does not address the question of whether input prices do or do not equal output prices outside of *that* context in Marx (e.g. it does not examine the issue of whether input prices are assumed to equal output prices at the level of concretion of the proposed "special study on competition" or at the level of concretion of "world market and crises"). or the "real world of capitalist dynamics". Yet, within the context of examining Marx's concept of PoP and whether input prices are assumed to equal output prices in that context, I think Fred does indeed present much textual evidence in support of his interpretation. But, I'm not going to speak further for Fred. If he has the time and inclination, he can speak for himself. And, of course, the same goes for Gary. In solidarity, Jerry
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