Re: (OPE-L) Re: Inflation, credit, and the 'money expression of labour' within a value-form perspective

From: Cyrus Bina (binac@MRS.UMN.EDU)
Date: Fri May 02 2003 - 14:09:13 EDT


As I remember, one of the distinct characteristics of Marx's theory of money
is its concept (and, for that matter, ontology) of 'hoarding' in the
capitalist circulation.  Thus, Marx's theory of money relies neither on the
classical 'quantity theory of money' nor on the 'Say's Law.'

Cyrus

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From: "Michael Eldred" <artefact@T-ONLINE.DE>
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Subject: Re: (OPE-L) Re: Inflation, credit, and the 'money expression of
labour' within a value-form perspective


> Cologne 02-May-2003
>
> gerald_a_levy schrieb Fri, 2 May 2003 06:50:07 -0400:
>
> > Michael E wrote on Thursday, May 01:
> >
> > > The quantitative value of money depends inter alia on the quantitative
> > > relation between the amount of money in circulation and the amount of
> > > commodities purchasable, i.e. the quantitative value of money is
itself
> > > relative. It will fall if the money volume increases relative to the
volume
> >
> > > of commodities to be had for it. Such money volume depends also on
credit
> > > relations, which in turn can be state-controlled through the central
bank
> > > (again by fiat).
> >
> > Is that the same thing as the quantity theory of money?
>
> Jerry,
>
> The difference lies in the fundamental ontological conception of value and
> money which lays the ground also for how magnitude of value and money
volumes
> are to be thought..
>
> > PS: thanks for yesterday's aside on Marx.  Hans Magnus Enzensberger
> > has been described as Germany's "most important poet" and has been an
> > influential essayist, dramatist, journalist, etc. as well.  Listmembers
may
> > recall his poem "Karl Heinrich Marx" which began with the words
"gigantic
> > grandfather."   I  have wondered, though, in his description of Marx as
> > "gigantic"  with a "massive body" if he was describing someone else.
> > How "gigantic" and "massive" was Marx?  Wasn't Engels taller (but
> > thinner)?
>
> Hans Magnus Enzensberger recently has been a harsh critic of the German
peace
> movement.
>
> I don't know about Marx's physical height, but...
>
> Gustav von Mevissen wrote circa 1894 of Marx around 1842/43, "Karl Marx
from
> Trier was a powefully built man of twenty-four with thick, black hair
sprouting
> from his cheeks, arms, nose and ears, domineering, impetuous, passionate,
full
> of an immeasurable feeling of himself, but deeply serious and learned, a
> restless dialectician who, with his inexorable Jewish astuteness, executed
> every sentence of the teachings of the young Hegel through to their final
> conclusions and was now already preparing his transition to Communism
through
> strict economic studies." (Gespr. mit Marx und Engels Vol. 1 S.5)
>
> Michael
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