From: Michael Eldred (artefact@T-ONLINE.DE)
Date: Fri May 16 2003 - 09:56:08 EDT
Cologne 16-May-2003 "Fred B. Moseley" schrieb Fri, 16 May 2003 00:12:01 -0400: > On Tue, 13 May 2003, gerald_a_levy wrote: > > > It seems that there was an unexpected participant at the Marx > > conference in Havana. Patrick Bond gave the following report to > > the "debate" list: > > http://www.lists.kabissa.org/lists/archives/public/debate/msg00425.html > > > > Is there anything that the listmembers who attended the conference > > (Samir, Paul Burkett, Allin, Diego, Claudio, Mike L, Stavros, Terry, > > Fred, and Alejandro V.) can add -- or take issue with? Any other > > unexpected and/or encouraging developments? Did any of you have an > > opportunity to talk to the unexpected participant? > > This is a few comments about Fidel's participation in the Marx conference > in Cuba, in response to Jerry's question. He attended all of one day - a > very long day, 11 hours in all I think - and half of another day - another > 5 hours or so. And he talked for about 6 hours altogether, in four long > (very long) monologues. > > It was of course an extraordinary experience to spend so much time > listening to such a world historical figure as Castro. There were many > fascinating stories and antidotes about the revolutionary movement in the > 1950s, about trying to run the economy for the last 40 years (including > purchases of everything from buses to chickens to toilets), about Chavez > (very positive) and other heads of state (mostly negative), etc. He is > passionately proud of the educational accomplishments of the Cuban > revolution, and also the health care accomplishments. He seemed at times > to be almost reminiscing about the past and recording his memoirs. He is > still plenty sharp at 76, but his stream of consciousness monologues > seemed to wander at times. > > He said he read Marx as a student and it had a profound effect on him ("I > learned about society from Marx, about the state from Lenin, and about > ethics from Marti"). He also said that he was a communist from early on, > contrary to the widespread belief that he "converted" to communism only > after the revolution. > > However, by the end, it was almost too much. He completely dominated the > conference and changed its nature. It became "Fidel's show", rather than > a conference of interchange and discussion of international scholars. The > former is probably more important and interesting than the latter, but it > seemed out of proportion. Because Fidel took so much time, the conference > lasted 4 hours longer than scheduled his first day and 2 hours longer his > second day, and one session had to be canceled altogether. > > I guess what worries me about this is that, if he is so dominant at a > scholarly conference, he would probably be even more dominant in policy > discussions, when it really mattered. Fidel is obviously a great man and > a great socialist. Learning more about the Cuban revolutionary movement > in the 1950s and the accomplishments since then made me realize even more > how extraordinary he is. But I think he may have too much power to > himself, and he appears reluctant to let go of that power. > > Almost everyone I met in Cuba seems to genuinely admire Fidel - even a > reactionary, racist taxi driver who drove us from the airport the first > night. "Fidel loves Cuba," he said, "he has done a lot for Cuba." Some > may disagree with his policies, or be tired of his long speeches, but they > all know and appreciate how much he has done for Cuba. But I think many > are also hoping that he will retire soon, and let others assume more > decision-making power, including the general population. However, this is > obviously a dangerous time for Cuba, and that makes it more difficult and > less likely that Fidel would give up the reins anytime soon. > > I am trying to find the time to write down what I learned about Cuba - > and my further questions - and will send these to the list when I am > finished. > > Comradely, > Fred Thanks for that, Fred. Hans Magnus Enzensberger writes in an essay on Cuba ('Bildnis einer Partei: Vorgeschichte, Struktur und Ideologie der PCC' in _Palaver: Politische Ueberlegungen 1967-1973_ Frankfurt 1974 S. 86), " 'Away with the theorists of the revolution! Away with these Marxist theorists! The Marxist-Leninist who's always developing theories is just sponging off society!' (Fidel Castro, Speech of 30 October 1963). Such outbursts abound in Fidel's speeches. They reappear, of course, often in a more attractive form, for instance, in an anecdote from the years 1954/55 which Raul Castro (Fidel's brother) told to an American guest. 'We read three chapters of _Capital_', reported Raul, laughing, 'and then we threw it away. I'm certain that since then Fidel hasn't once looked at it again.' That has a certain charm; there may be scarcely one communist politician who has gone further than the third chapter; there is however quite certainly no one besides Fidel who is proud of it." And I commented back in 1981 ('Material Dialectics and Socialist Politics' in _Thesis Eleven_ No. 2 1981 p.61) on this, "The grounds which Enzensberger ascribes to this anti-intellectualism, however, do not amount simply to a defence mechanism against intellectuals' criticism of his leadership, for, such a layer of intellectuals, who could develop a well-founded critique of the Cuban revolution, is entirely lacking in that country. Cf. S.87ff on this point." Michael _-_-_-_-_-_-_- artefact text and translation _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- made by art _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ http://www.webcom.com/artefact/ _-_-_-_-artefact@webcom.com _-_ _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ Dr Michael Eldred -_-_- _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_
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