From: gerald_a_levy (gerald_a_levy@MSN.COM)
Date: Sun Jun 01 2003 - 09:43:02 EDT
Re Paul C's post dated Friday, May 30: 1. Demographic transition or conversion is a well attested empirical phenomenon. What contrary instances can you come up with. The issue isn't whether there are observed empirical trends, but rather how we interpret those trends and whether we can expect those trends to be continued into the future and generalized from an essentially European experience to the rest of the world. There are a number of problems with demographic transition theory, first advanced by Frank Notestein in 1945: a) It is Eurocentric to the extent that it postulates that population trends in the future in the rest of the world will parallel those that occurred in the 19th Century in Europe. b) unless we comprehend the reasons for prior demographic trends we can not legitimately make any inferences about whether those trends will continue into the future. Your postulate about what can be expected to happen re population in the next 50 years seems particularly problematic, imo, given the long time horizon and the amount of uncertainties associated with population variables. c) Contrary to Notestein's theory, there isn't clear-cut cross-cultural evidence that rising income levels directly cause demographic decline. Indeed, the spread of medical knowledge and treatment for the working classes -- which contributes to declining mortality rates, and is a contrary tendency that can be expected to _increase_ population -- _is_ associated with rising income levels. It should also be noted, in the advanced capitalist nations, that while there has been a long- term decrease in children/family, life expectancy has increased significantly which again exerts a counter pressure towards population increase. d) Notestein's presumption that economic rationality will increasingly determine family behavior anticipates in some ways 'human capital' theory a la Gary Becker and can be subjected to the same type of criticism, e.g. that it is crudely deterministic. 2. My explanation of it is certainly not complete, but all of the features that I mention are common place attributes of capitalist development. What does it mean to say that they are not *necessary* consequences, other than that we have not yet come up with an understanding of the causal process generating them. This reflects our ignorance more than anything else. Without an understanding of the causal processes, though, we can not come to the conclusion that you have made about what is likely to occur with population over the next 50 years. Until that is comprehended any supposition of the future relation between projected demographic change and the organic composition of capital becomes highly problematic and contingent. In solidarity, Jerry
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