Re: (OPE-L) Re: Paresh Chattopadhyay 'Capital, The Progenitor of Socialism'

From: Rakesh Bhandari (rakeshb@STANFORD.EDU)
Date: Fri Jan 02 2004 - 12:05:42 EST


>At 16:27 01/01/2004, Paul Bullock wrote:
>
>>  > This is simply untrue. The unions in general have not been
>>>  enthusiastic about Chavez; the steel workers were on the fence, from
>>>  what I can make out.( THE ISSUE HERE THEN IS 'WHAT YOU CAN MAKE OUT'... IF
>>MICHAEL HAS THE ENERGY HE MIGHT TELL YOU ABOUT THE CORRUPTION IN THE
>>LEADERSHIP OF THESE UNIONS, THEIRASSOCIATION WITH THE OLIGARCHY THAT
>>PRECEEDED THE CHAVEZ GOVERNMENT ETC, QUITE APART FROM THEIR RELATIVELY SMALL
>>SIZE FROM AN ELECTORAL STANDPOINT)
>
>As much as I appreciate the invitation, I'll pass--- but not because I lack
>the energy. Instead, let me come back to an earlier question in this thread
>(on 22 December) that Rakesh didn't answer:
>
>>Rakesh,
>>         Let's agree that 'workers' revolutions in the so called North or
>>West' would solve a lot of problems (although not all). Let's also agree
>>that these don't seem to be on the horizon (unless I'm badly out-of-touch).
>>The question then becomes what those in the 'South' who want to put an end
>>to the barbarism of capitalism should do. E.g., what should be done in
>>India? You appear to agree with Paresh (and, I would guess, Rosenberg) that
>>attempts at exploding the existing societies of the South under the current
>>conditions would be quixotic, but you haven't answered my questions.
>
>         Really, Rakesh, what is to be done?
>                 michael

What should be done in India? I was persuaded by Jairus' arguments
against Gail Omvedt for splits within so called kisan movements.

Rakesh


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