(OPE-L) RE: Say's Law in Marxian Theories?

From: Gerald A. Levy (Gerald_A_Levy@MSN.COM)
Date: Thu Feb 26 2004 - 11:25:54 EST


Hi again Andrew.

>> 1. It could be argued that all proponents of the falling rate of profit,
when they use Marx's reproduction schema, implicitly assume Say's Law. <<<

The "use" of the reproduction schema was rather limited and  tied to the
specific  form that that the accumulation debates happened in German Social
Democracy.

The article by Rosenthal singles out Anwar [Shaikh] as being a
"Grossmanite", but there are really quite a large number of authors who are
or were "proponents" of the LTRPF, including Mattick, Altvater, Rosdolsky
and Mandel (although the latter had more of a multi-causal theory of crisis
which included the LTRPF and the counter-acting factors, but had other
elements as well).  In the 1970's, authors such as Mario Cogoy, Georgios
Stamatis, and OPE-Ler David Yaffe could be seen as being part of  the
intellectual tradition which was influenced by Grossmann.  Paolo Giussani
and OPE-Lers Fred M and John E (both of whom studied with Mattick, Sr.),
among others, are contemporaries who are part of this tradition.  I think it
would be _very_  hard to support the proposition that all of these authors
implicitly assumed Say's Law.

It should also be noted that some works which even Rosenthal couldn't claim
as being "Grossmanite", such as Fine and Harris (1979) and Reuten and
Williams (1989), have a  major _place_ for the LTRPF.  It would be
difficult indeed to make the case that all of these theories also implicitly
assume Say's Law.

>>>
2. My second question is can all proponents of the falling rate of profit
thesis be placed in a clear Grossmanite lineage? Before Grossmann the
falling rate of profit was very marginal to Marxist economics; so if
Grossmann implicitly assumes Say's Law then the point can be generalized to
much of Marxist economics. I don't have enough knowledge of the history of
Marxist economics to back this up, but it is to some extent argued by Howard
and King. <<<

It does seem to be the case that before Grossmann the LTRPF (and the
CFs) were not identified by most Marxist authors as being central to Marx's
theory of crisis.  To see how this was the case for the prominent Bolsheviks
and their Social-Democratic contemporaries, see Richard B. Day (1981)
_The 'Crisis' and the 'Crash'_ (London, NLB).  The timing of the translation
of Volume III into other languages, including Russian, may be relevant for
explaining the extent to which theories emphasized Volume II topics
rather than also including Volume III subjects, including the LTRPF.

In solidarity, Jerry


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