Re: (OPE-L) explaining transitions among modes of production

From: Paul Cockshott (wpc@DCS.GLA.AC.UK)
Date: Fri Oct 01 2004 - 03:10:00 EDT


I put the transition directly to communism in because
that was the sequence suggested by Marx in Critique of
the Gotha Program where he mentions 2 stages of communism
the first of which is directly reachable from capitalism.

This first stage was later identified with socialism
by Soviet orthodoxy, but if one examines what he said about
it, one sees that it was somewhat different from the 
socialist mode of production operating in the Eastern
block. It thus seems to me to be an open question in
marxism that such a direct transition is possible.


-----Original Message-----
From: OPE-L on behalf of Gerald A. Levy
Sent: Fri 10/1/2004 3:18 AM
To: OPE-L@SUS.CSUCHICO.EDU
Subject: (OPE-L) explaining transitions among modes of production
 
Allin,

I asked Paul C:

> > Why not [examine] the following?
> > capitalism  => feudalism
> > capitalism  => slavery
> > socialism   => feudalism
> > socialism   => slavery

You replied:

> Because these are a bit silly?  (That is, of such low probability,
> given our current understanding of things, that they are not worth
> discussing).

Yet, one of the arcs that Paul suggested that we focus on was:

communism => capitalism

If it is silly to speculate that there can be a transition back to
feudalism and slavery from either capitalism or socialism,
how would you rank the probability of a transition to
capitalism from communism, a mode of production that has
never existed?

If you don't want to discuss 'silly' questions, how about
addressing the following question:

How would you determine the transition arc and
probability for

capitalism => socialism

in the UK in the first half of the 21st century?

I think we can all agree that is a question of some
importance.

In solidarity, Jerry


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