From: Gerald_A_Levy@MSN.COM
Date: Wed Jun 01 2005 - 15:23:20 EDT
> http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/article.php4?article_id=6598 Thanks for this, Ian. As I haven't met Alfredo yet, I was quite interested to see his picture! > Quote: > "There are many ideas in circulation about what a post-capitalist > society could look like, but there is no consensus. The question is an > important one. The radical left cannot have a purely negative > programme — you can't convince people purely by saying that capitalism > is a bad idea." Why did you select this quote? I think this quote is best understood with reference to the para that went before it which began "I don't think such a society would look like the Soviet Union ...." ************ I was struck by the paragraph: "The bit-by-bit privatization of the NHS in Britain is one example of a government and groups of capitalists 'attempting to absorb new areas into the commodity system ... if they can achieve that, they will have increased the *rate* of exploitation of workers, regardless of the changes in wages.'" (emphasis added, JL) I don't really understand the "regardless of the changes in wages" clause above. If wages are increased by an amount equal to or greater than the cost to them of privatized health care, then the _rate_ of exploitation wouldn't increase, would it? In any event, would _workers_ be the ones who would pay out-of-pocket for health care after privatization or would the cost be born by corporations or would there be a 'co-pay' arrangement? _If_ capitalists pay for the health care costs, then that would not cause there to be an increase in the _rate_ of exploitation. What confuses me about the quote above is whether Alfredo is talking about the rate of surplus value or the _mass_ of surplus value. The privatization of the NHS -- to the extent that it would cause a decrease in the quantity of workers employed by the state and an increase in the quantity of [productive] workers employed by capital -- would increase the _mass_ of s but not necessarily the rate of surplus value. In solidarity, Jerry
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