From: Jerry Levy (Gerald_A_Levy@MSN.COM)
Date: Sun Mar 05 2006 - 09:52:40 EST
> Just quickly, I have provided a brief answer to some of your queries here: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tendency_of_the_rate_of_profit_to_fall Hi Jurriaan, Your wikipedia entry in the section on "Empirical Evidence" recognizes some of the questions I raised. E.g. in that section you wrote: "correlation does not imply causation. Just because a fall in profitability is observed, this does not prove any imply any particular *causal* theory about *why* it has fallen ...." Indeed. When you state that: "Most economic historians agree that, at the beginning of the great economic depressions or recessions in the history of capitalism (measured by a drop in output), there typically has been a downslide in the observed average returns on capital invested in industries, reducing the incentive to invest, and consequently raising unemployment." aren't you stating the obvious? (this is not a criticism: in certain contexts, it's important to state the obvious.) So profitability typically declines at the beginning of a depression, what does that tell us? Isn't it a claim which advocates of just about every economic theory could agree with? When you go on to write: "At best Marxian economics has convincingly argued that profitability is the synthetic, overall indicator of the 'economic health' of the capitalist system ...." you are stating a conclusion that just about all of the *critics* of the TRPF would *agree* with: to claim that profitability is an important indicator of 'economic health' of capitalism is a profoundly uncontroversial claim. Then you add (as the end to the previous sentence) that "economic crises are *system-immanent*, i.e. capitalism is inherently crisis- prone, because of its institutional structure and the way it functions." What does it mean, though, to say that capitalism is "crisis-prone"? One could examine the same historical data on cycles and just as easily write that it is "growth-prone"! Isn't saying that capitalism historically is crisis-prone simply recognizing that capital accumulation proceeds in a *cyclical* way and that in some time periods the rate of profit grows and in other periods it declines? From that perspective, isn't it a *tautology*? The issues I raised (in my previous post and above) were not postmodern Marxist inspired, btw. I'll send another post shortly following-up on the issue of "capitalism in crisis." In solidarity, Jerry
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