Re: [OPE-L] Inter-species slavery- was marx's conception of labour

From: Paul Cockshott (wpc@DCS.GLA.AC.UK)
Date: Thu Nov 23 2006 - 04:08:12 EST


Rakesh, it is more a matter that so many points have been
raised that it is difficult to keep up with all of them

Paul Cockshott

www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~wpc



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Subject: Re: [OPE-L] Inter-species slavery- was  marx's conception of labour
 
>Quoting Rakesh Bhandari <bhandari@BERKELEY.EDU>:
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>>  > Adam Smiths theory of morality as being based in an inate empathic
>>  > capability of humans now seems to have a sound materialist foundation.
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>>  Though by materialism I hope you don't mean that the empathetic self can
>>  be located as a neural
>>  object.
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>I never mentioned the self, about whose existence there are serious
>questions, but the empathic faculty must surely have a basis
>in particular neural sub systems that become active in the situations
>in which empathy is induced. What else could that empathy be
>but the activity of these sub-systems?


What role does the body play in this empathy?

Paul, I am getting lost in this discussion. You seem to be dropping a
lot of points after criticism has been voiced. Are you ceding those
points of contention or just moving beyond them?

Rakesh

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>>  > However, these mirror neurons are present in other higher primates,
>>  > and experimental evidence seems to indicate that they too have a 'theory
>>  > of mind', i.e., can put themselves in the position of another monkey
>>  > watching themselves. So this indicates that we are dealing with our
>>  > common primate heritage here.
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>>  Well this is controversial--on whose research are you relying;
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>To tell the truth, I have difficulty remembering which articles
>I relied upon, other than that it was a series of articles published
>in Science and Nature during the 90s. Doing a quick scan of their
>archives on the web, the only one I can come up with
>http://www.icn.ucl.ac.uk/dev_group/documents/frith_Sci_99.pdf
>and also Baron Cohen's book on mind blindness.
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