From: Dogan Goecmen (Dogangoecmen@AOL.COM)
Date: Tue Nov 28 2006 - 08:38:08 EST
In einer eMail vom 28.11.2006 13:50:55 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt Martin.Kragh@HHS.SE: Hi Dogan, First I tried to reply to all your questions, but they deserve more attention than I can afford. I am sorry about this, I would like to return to them however, at some other time. I can only say this much. You wrote (and I think this summarizes the debate): "How do you think about this contradiction? Is it rational compared to the aims of production? Is it rational compared to the interests of society. Is it just a matter of the view one happens to take or are able to make a more objective evaluation." The contradiction we see, is, I believe, real. To ask if it is rational or not makes little sense to me, this is how the system works. Bottomline, I think Marx' critique is ethical. We do not "happen" to take certain views, the way we regard society is a result of each person's struggle, intellectually as well as in society. To strive for what you label "objective evaluation" makes little sense to me. This, atleast, is the way I see it. Many kind regards, Martin Hi Martin, I thank you very much for summarising my views and questions. If you assert this contradiction, then I think we have a huge common ground to continue our conversation. The assertion of this contradition is not Marx's original contribution. Long before Marx it was already asserted by Ricardo, Owen and many other political economist and socialist activists. Even Malthus does not deny this. From my philosophical background however it makes only sense to assert a contradition if you are prepared to say something about it from normative point of view. Otherwise, I would not understand our role as social scientists, political economists, political theorists and son if we just assert the contradition, because everyone experience this contradiction in one way or another in their everyday life. So I mean evry one knows it. So, in turn, it does not make a sense to me to reassert something that everyone kwons. As intellectuals, I think, we have to say something more about it. For example what is(are) its cause(s) and are there possible solutions. Would you agree with me on this? Warm regards Dogan P.S: Sorry for misspellings and leftouts in my previous email.
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