Re: [OPE-L] History as Spiral

From: Christopher Arthur (arthurcj@WAITROSE.COM)
Date: Tue Dec 12 2006 - 13:33:25 EST


Francisco
the passage is quoted correctly. The explication of the oddity to which 
you draw attention is the burden of my chapter 6 in my book The New 
Dialectic and marx's capital (earlier version in Rethinking Marxism 
1993).
Chris A
17 Bristol Road
Brighton
BN2 1AP
On 11 Dec 2006, at 20:32, Francisco Paulo Cipolla wrote:

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>
>  Francisco Paulo Cipolla wrote:
>  Dogan, is the citation right?
>  Why does Marx say "but gives him individual property" instead of 
> collective property? Co-operation or possession in common seem to be 
> the opposite of individual property!
>  Paulo
>
>  Dogan Goecmen wrote:
>   Dear David in Capital, Vol. 1, Part VIII: Primitive Accumulation, 
> Chapter Thirty-Two: Historical Tendency of Capitalist Accumulation, in 
> the paragraph before the last paragraph Marx says:  *The capitalist 
> mode of appropriation, the result of the capitalist mode of 
> production, produces capitalist private property. This is the first 
> negation of individual private property, as founded on the labor of 
> the proprietor. But capitalist production begets, with the 
> inexorability of a law of Nature, its own negation. It is the negation 
> of negation. This does not re-establish private property for the 
> producer, but gives him individual property based on the acquisition 
> of the capitalist era: i.e., on co-operation and the possession in 
> common of the land and of the means of production.*See: 
> http://www.marx.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch32.htm;alternatively: 
> Karl Marx, Capital, Moscow: Progress Publishers, Vol. I, p. 715.If 
> more references needed please let us know. There are many similar 
> passages in various other works of Marx and Engels. Since you put in 
> your email Marx on the first place I selected a passage from Capital. 
> CheersDogan In einer eMail vom 08.12.2006 22:40:26 Westeuropäische 
> Normalzeit schreibt dlaibman@SCIENCEANDSOCIETY.COM:
> Dear OPE comrades,
>   Folks on this list are *so good* at tracking things down, that I 
> could
> not resist passing this one along.
>   One of my colleagues at *Science & Society,* Barbara Foley, asks: 
> where
> does Marx (I think she would include Engels as well) put forward the
> idea that history proceeds in spiral form -- i.e., negation of the
> negation, with elements present in the first-posited stage returning, 
> in
> a "higher" state, in a third stage?
>   Any references would be appreciated.
>   In solidarity,
>      David
> David Laibman


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