Re: [OPE-L] a systematic exchange of perspectives

From: ajit sinha (sinha_a99@YAHOO.COM)
Date: Mon Mar 05 2007 - 10:07:11 EST


I thin this is the way to go! ajit
--- Jerry Levy <Gerald_A_Levy@MSN.COM> wrote:

> OK, Ajit.  I'm willing to engage you in this
> discussion but
> I propose that we proceed as follows:
>
> o  I'll initiate the exchange by posing a very
> simple proposition.
>
> o  You can then agree or object.
>
> o  Then I'll pose another proposition and you can
> agree or
>      object, and so on.
>
> o  If you object, you explain what is wrong with the
> proposition
>     and I will respond.
>
> o  Note that this does not take the form of  either
> one of us asking
>     questions of the other.
>
> o  We proceed slowly and deliberately (there's no
> rush, after
>      all ....) dealing with one issue after another
> -- never more
>     than one new point in any post.
>
> o   No digressions.
>
> o   No rhetoric.
>
> o   No literary citations.
>
> o  We then see how far we can get with this
> exchange.  Presumably,  at
>     some point we won't agree, but it would be
> instructive to see what point
>     that is and why.
>
> o  When we disagree, we decide whether the
> disagreement is so major that
>     we can't go forward until there's agreement (in
> which case the exchange
>     is broken off) or we together decide to note a
> disagreement but proceed
>     to the next step anyway.
>
> [NB: the above would be a different -- a slower and
> more systematic --
> exchange than that suggested by Fred, Diego, or
> others in the past.]
>
> o  For the purposes of this exchange, I propose that
> although we can
>    use arguments that have been developed by others,
> we not state who
>    made those arguments  nor quote anyone (except
> each other's posts, of
>    course).
>
> I think that's a fair and workable procedure.  Do
> you agree?  If so,
> then my next post in reply to you will state the
> first proposition.
>
> In solidarity, Jerry
>
>
>
>
>
> > What bothers me mostly is that in this sort of
> > debates, the most fundamental questions are
> usually
> > never posed. The question is: On what basis one
> can
> > claim that "the so-called exchange-value is a
> > necessary form of appearance of commodity value
> and
> > that price is a necessary form of appearance of
> > exchange-value." The question is not about who
> said
> > what but what is the basis of establishing the
> claim
> > made by whoever said it. Once you ask this
> question,
> > only then you will begin to understand the
> problems
> > associated with such claims.
>




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