From: David Laibman (dlaibman@SCIENCEANDSOCIETY.COM)
Date: Thu Aug 16 2007 - 17:29:01 EDT
Hi all, I can't resist throwing in a word or two! Paul C. quite rightly points out that the two quotes from Engels -- one from *Anti-Duhring* and one from *The Poverty of Philosophy* -- address different contexts: the first, a communist society in which all labor is consciously social and allocated according to plan; the second, a commodity economy. The second quote is from work addressing Proudhon's and Rodbertus's fanciful and utopian proposals, and emphasizing the role of objective evolutionary necessity in social transformation. It opposes *abolition* of value and its replacement by labor tokens. The quote from *Anti-Duhring* refers to a higher stage, in which the conditions for the emergence of fully conscious social calculation have matured. So the quotes are not inherently contradictory, but they do reveal a tension. Rejecting utopian schemes to simply implement that which can only emerge gradually over time, through purposeful action, the question still remains concerning *how* commodity-money relations are to be transformed, and eventually transcended; *how* to prevent the reproduction/reemergence of negative social phenomena associated with spontaneous value formation; and so forth. It is always instructive to find tensions within the thinking of Marx and Engels. If we treat them not as prophets but as innovative scientists, we won't be "startled" even to find contradictions, contradictions that cannot be resolved without our making choices concerning the formulations that we find most productive and fruitful. If M&E were still alive, they would be ruthlessly going through their own work, revising, correcting, developing. We should do no less. In solidarity, David
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