Re: [OPE-L] Suspension

From: Dogan Goecmen (dogangoecmen@AOL.COM)
Date: Fri Nov 16 2007 - 04:31:03 EST


Jerry,



since you are the only signer of this mail may I ask who has made this decision.
 
Dogan


-----Ursprüngliche Mitteilung----- 
Von: ope-admin@RICARDO.ECN.WFU.EDU
An: OPE-L@SUS.CSUCHICO.EDU
Verschickt: Fr., 16. Nov. 2007, 6:11
Thema: [OPE-L] Suspension




I.  Chronology of  Recent Events
================================

. Although there was a long pre-history for this dispute, Ajit Sinha 's
essage of November 12
http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/ope/archive/0711/0095.html>
nitiated the most recent controversy.  Ajit accused Rakesh in that
essage of violating the January 24 Advisory Committee statement
olicy(hereafter call "the agreement") - Section # 2 of
http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/ope/archive/0701/0080.html>

. Upon reading Ajit's message, I immediately instructed everyone that the
iscussion on this matter would proceed *OFF-LIST*:
http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/ope/archive/0711/0096.html>
We had already determined in an Advisory Committee (AC) "Statement on
lames" that in the future all complaints concerning alleged flames (or,
y inference, charges of violations of the January agreement) must be made
OFF-LIST*: see 4.b) of
http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/ope/archive/0707/0099.html>

. *AFTER* B.) Rakesh sent *two* on-list replies to Ajit's message:
http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/ope/archive/0711/0097.html>
nd <http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/ope/archive/0711/0098.html>
The second message violated two policies: 1) it alleged *ON-LIST*
hatanother member had written a flame; and 2) it quoted Ajit ("your
tupid editorializing") and hence was a violation of the January 24
greement. It was all the more outrageous a violation because he had
just_ been instructed that discussions on that issue were to take place
OFF-LIST*. D. I replied immediately to Rakesh:
http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/ope/archive/0711/0099.html>
nsisting that he not again discuss the matter on-list.

. Almost immediately afterwards, Rakesh used that same expression
"editorializing" ("oh just some editorializing")
http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/ope/archive/0711/0107.html>
Everyone on the list  by this time knew that was a reference to what Ajit
ad written earlier that day.

. I *once again* instructed Rakesh not to continue to quote Ajit on-list:
http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/ope/archive/0711/0110.html>
e was told in no uncertain terms to "*STOP IT, NOW!*".

  Almost immediately afterwards, Rakesh once again referred to
editorializing" in *two* separate messages in reply to Ian H:
http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/ope/archive/0711/0113.html> and
http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/ope/archive/0711/0114.html>
Anyone who had read the sequence of posts that day was aware that the
eference to "editorializing" was a reference to what Ajit had written.

. In reply to these events - and what he perceived as the unwillingness
f the list administrators to act against Rakesh, Ajit resigned:
http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/ope/archive/0711/0125.html>
Ajit remarked - among other things - that there had been a  "blatently
humming of nose" by Rakesh at the list coordinator and that he
ad repeatedly violated the January agreement.


I. Conclusions
   ===========
The above - beyond a shadow of a doubt - establishes that
akesh Bhandari:

. Violated list policy by alledging on-list that he been flamed;

.  Violated the directive to discuss Ajit's complaint off-list rather
han on-list.
C.  *Repeatedly* violated the January 24 agreement by referring to what
jit had written.
The January agreement specifically says that there are to be "NO
XCEPTIONS" and that any violations of the agreement by Rakesh would
esult in a suspension for a "substantial period" of time. Given the
bove, there is NO ALTERNATIVE allowable under list policy other than to
uspend Rakesh for a substantial period oftime.  Accordingly, Rakesh has
een suspended for a substantial period of time -- the amount of which
ill be decided shortly.

n solidarity, Jerry


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