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------------------------ Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: Stiglitz on GDP (continued) From: "Jurriaan Bendien" <adsl675281@tiscali.nl> Date: Fri, February 8, 2008 6:40 pm To: "OPE-L" <OPE-L@SUS.CSUCHICO.EDU> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- In a Foreign Affairs article, Prof. Stiglitz comments: "Consider the following thought experiment: If you could choose which country to live in but would be assigned an income randomly from within that country's income distribution, would you choose the country with the highest GDP per capita? No. More relevant to that decision is median income (the income level that 50 percent of the population is below and 50 percent is above). As the income distribution becomes increasingly skewed, with an increasing share of the wealth and income in the hands of those at the top, the median falls further and further below the mean. That is why, even as per capita GDP has been increasing in the United States, U.S. median household income has actually been falling." http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20051101fareviewessay84612/joseph-e-stiglitz/the-ethical-economist.html But in that case, what we need is not wellbeing indicators, but good indicators of real income and real wages for different classes of the population, in order to show the real distribution of income and assets. Yet that is exactly what governments are not interested in providing. In New Zealand for example, producing a quintile index of real after-tax income was quietly axed by Len Cook (he later became the British government statistician), and replaced with an "employers' labour costs" index. The political reason was that the top quintile kept rising, while the other quintiles stagnated or went down (especially the lowest quintile went strongly down). The taxpayer pays for the production of the statistics. But the statistics are typically biased to the interests of employers only. In civil society, citizens have the right to know what the real incomes and assets of different classes and groups in the population are. But most governments refuse to publish them as standard tabulations comparable over time. It is not that they cannot do it, or that they do not have that information, but that anything that might put the government in a bad light is studiously avoided. This removes a very important objective basis for policy. It is of course nice if policymakers can ask each other "are you well?" and answer "Yes I am well" or "No, I am not so well", but that is not a policy which improves the wellbeing of those whom they are supposed to serve. In fact it is not policy at all, it is only the personal policy of the policy makers. Standardised "wellbeing" indicators make little sense, when the meaning of wellbeing cannot be standardised for different cultures which attach different values or importance to particular facets of wellbeing. But for most important facets which we can objectively measure, international measures are already available. So all that would be achieved would be that governments are "obliged" to produce standard wellbeing indicators. But the governments of countries suffering the lowest level of wellbeing are also the least likely to produce, or be interested in producing, the standard wellbeing indicators which make them look bad. Imagine requesting the government of the Congo to produce standardized wellbeing indicators for the population. Most likely you would get a polite "f**k off" as a reply. I can understand it if spoiled American brats fret about the level of their wellbeing, but for most ordinary people what matters most is what they are earning, what their working conditions and living costs are, whether there are sufficient amenities and services so that you can bring up a family, and that sort of thing. It is a funny thing that Stiglitz has allied with Sarkozy, a lumpen-bourgeois who wants take money from the poor and give it to the rich, under the guise of fanciful arguments about "wellbeing" and suchlike. Sarkozy wants to "modernize" French society, but he has no idea of how to do it, and so he gets cliques of rich people to brainstorm about it, with rich helpings of public money. What economist with conscience would be prepared to participate in this nonsense? If I was Stiglitz, I would have nothing to do with it. I would concentrate on describing and explaining the real pattern of international trade. After all, Ricardo's "comparative advantage" and the Hechsler-Ohlin theorem simply do not explain anything much about that pattern. That is one reason why we got the "globalisation" rhetorics in the first place. "Globalisation" is a concept that is used to refer to all kinds of things, just like GDP. But that is just to say that a good theory is lacking. Why? Because the implication of such a theory would be that in reality a gigantic transfer of income from the poor to the rich has occurred across the last 25 years or so, the greatest transfer of wealth in the whole history of the world, far in excess of the growth in real production. Rich people who fund research are not interested in researchers who ask difficult questions about the source of their wealth. They are interested in justifications of their wealth, for example that "wellbeing" improved. All theories which might have "dangerous implications" are systematically weeded out - to the detriment of science, since if any idea that "might imply" the "wrong" thing is rejected, there is little left to say other than platitudes. The policy process therefore increasingly produces a language which seems to mean something, but really doesn't, because it could mean anything you want it to mean. This provides no real orientation, but apart from the policy confusions that generates, it doesn't really matter, as long as people obey. In fact that becomes the very purpose of the policy language: to convey who must obey whom. "When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less." "The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things." "The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master - - that's all." It would be nice to think that we could restore a sense of objectivity and precision by recourse to numbers, as Stiglitz suggests. But precisely because there is not even any agreement about what should be counted, this venture is unlikely to succeed. It will only produce aggregations convenient to what governments happen to require to justify policy, i.e. a more nuanced language for saying nothing in particular that is of real importance. Jurriaan _______________________________________________ ope mailing list ope@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/ope
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