From: dogangoecmen@aol.com
Date: Fri Apr 04 2008 - 10:50:23 EDT
Jerry, the difference between your statement and the one of Jurriaan seems to me to be clear. If I am wrong he can correct me. Dogan -----Ursprüngliche Mitteilung----- Von: GERALD LEVY <gerald_a_levy@msn.com> An: Outline on Political Economy mailing list <ope@lists.csuchico.edu> Verschickt: Fr., 4. Apr. 2008, 16:39 Thema: RE: [OPE] Recent serious theoretical discussions: reply to Dogan you say: "It's not "nonsense": what Jurriaan is saying above is , I think, is an important and valid historical observation - namely, that bureaucracies - and all sorts of atrocities - have been rationalized with reference to the language of 'dialectics'. You say it has been misused." Jurriaan says: Thus, this "dialectical totality" is merely the philosophical justification and rationalization of bureaucratic power. It is a sad thing when modern Marxists succumb to the same nonsense - and I say this as someone with a lengthy experience of bureaucratic absurdities. These are entirely different statements. People may misuse anything you may think it is safe. <snip> Dialectical concept of totality is an epistemological concept and means to grasp something you have to take it in all its dimensions and relations (external ans internal). Hi Dogan: I think you are simply mis-reading what Jurriaan has written. If you look at his para as a whole, you will see that his objection concerns the "discoursing" about dialectics by repressive bureaucracies, i.e. that they have historically (mis-) used the language of dialectics as a rationalization for their policies. In the extract above from that paragraph, please note that Jurriaan went out of his way to put "dialectical totality" in quotation marks. In solidarity, Jerry = _______________________________________________ ope mailing list ope@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/ope ________________________________________________________________________ Bei AOL gibt's jetzt kostenlos eMail für alle. Klicken Sie auf AOL.de um heraus zu finden, was es sonst noch kostenlos bei AOL gibt. _______________________________________________ ope mailing list ope@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/ope
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