From: GERALD LEVY (gerald_a_levy@msn.com)
Date: Sun Jun 29 2008 - 16:16:54 EDT
> Is there any problem with “consumer sovereignty” –as JERRY think- having > all the provisos we foresee and these mild inequalities? Of course there > is not. Alejandro: Even the leading advocates of market socialism (such as Nove and Kornai) came to realize - though *experience* - that there were indeed problems. If you want to evaluate market socialism, you have to critically evaluate the historical experiences where some variation of it was adopted. Kornai was very clear about this: he argued that there was - especially in Hungary under the NEM - was a contradiction between the principles of efficiency and "socialist ethics". For any system of material incentives to be effective there must be income inequalities, he argued. Yet, this anti-egalitarian system conflicts with the principle of equal pay for equal work and contradicts the socialist principles of solidarity, security, and full employment. In Hungary, there was also the problem of "Departmentalism", e.g. where managers lobby the state for subsidies and tax allowances. Kornai was very blunt in suggesting that there was no easy or general solution for these contradictions. What you call "mild inequalities" was anything but "mild" in many of the countries which adopted market socialist models. In the former Yugoslavia, for instance, some firms paid skilled workers twenty times the salary of unskilled workers! (By contrast, the ratio in the former USSR was about 3.5 to 1). In 1981 the top 10% of income earners received 23% of all income. This compares to the top 10% earning 27% of all income ... in the USA! The chickens of market socialism really came home to roost in Yugoslavia in other ways. For example: - increasing inflation rates (1.5% from 1956-1964; 10.4% from 1965-1970; 14-5% from 1976-1980). Note the trend! - increasing unemployment rates (5.5% in 1960-65; 7.5% in 65-76; 12% from 1977 to 1980). Note trend! The question that was asked at the time by many socialists was "is this socialism?". What kind of "socialism" has the business cycle, unemployment, inflation, large income inequalities, etc.? In solidarity, Jerry _______________________________________________ ope mailing list ope@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/ope
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