Re: [OPE] Venezuela and the goal of Socialists.

From: <dogangoecmen@aol.com>
Date: Fri Sep 26 2008 - 03:23:27 EDT

 I am sorry, but you act as an activist and you are on the barricades, but on the wrong side, on the side of the suppressors. This what I get from your concerns. Your concerns are not he concerns of the great body of humanity who seek to emancipate from some hundred thousands suppressors. Ce ca!
Dogan

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alejandro Agafonow <alejandro_agafonow@yahoo.es>
To: Outline on Political Economy mailing list <ope@lists.csuchico.edu>
Sent: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 9:16
Subject: Re: [OPE] Venezuela and the goal of Socialists.

Let’s imagine for a second that you are right Dogan. My concern is about the terms of our discussion qua critical socialist and scientist.

 

When I want to act as an activist I go behind barricades. But the barricades in the social sciences are a lot more delicate, carefully built and, what is more important, constantly dismantled to reinvent them again.

 

Regards,

A. Agafonow

----- Mensaje original ----
De: "dogangoecmen@aol.com" <dogangoecmen@aol.com>
Para: ope@lists.csuchico.edu
Enviado: viernes, 26 de septiembre, 2008 8:53:06
Asunto: Re: [OPE] Venezuela and the goal of Socialists.

Dear Alejandro Agafonof,

why do you pay so little attention to the 1 million Irakis who have been killed since the invasion by the USA?
Where do you stand, are you for the emancipation of the suppressed or for the suppressors? Or do you think you are the god and stand outside all this? You are o
bviously worried about the future of capitalist economy and want to rescue it by using so many fanciful arguments.

Regards,
Dogan

-----Original Message-----
From: Alejandro Agafonow <alejandro_agafonow@yahoo.es>
To: OPE@lists.csuchico.edu
Sent: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 8:41
Subject: [OPE] Venezuela and the goal of Socialists.

The replies of Paul Bullock, Gerald Levy and others are simply on the defensive. They don’t have counter arguments that prove that HRW accusations are wrong or are simply lies.

 

Bullock, Levy & others just try to subtract20importance to the evidence showing the steps back in civil and political rights in Venezuela, pointing to the unquestionable advances in economic and political participation that chavistas (more properly in Spanish: “chavecistas”) have accomplished.

 

It is supposed that the members of this list are a little bit beyond “uncritical activism”. The motive that joins us together in OPE is our interest in science at the service of the achievement of a better world, that all of us think it is sum up in an idea of Socialism that in itself is controversial and doesn’t count with our unanimity.

 

I sincerely would like to see you avoiding empty counter-imperialist rhetoric and bearing in mind our goal as informed and critical Socialists.

 

Yours,
Alejandro Agafonow

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