Re: [OPE] socialist planning in capitalist firms

From: Paul Cockshott <>
Date: Mon Mar 29 2010 - 14:52:04 EDT

how much of this is theory and how much is backed by quantitative research
From: [] On Behalf Of Alejandro Agafonow []
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 6:07 PM
To: Outline on Political Economy mailing list
Subject: Re: [OPE] socialist planning in capitalist firms

Diminishing returns to management are yield rates that after a certain point fail to increase proportionately and start to decrease to additional outlays of management. Should certain degree of centralization reached this bureaucratic inefficiencies start to increase disproportionately.

A. Agafonow

De: Gerald Levy <>
Para: Outline on Political Economy mailing list <>
Enviado: jue,18 marzo, 2010 15:09
Asunto: Re: [OPE] socialist planning in capitalist firms

> So, what does make conflicting interests in capitalist economies more
> powerful than conflicting interests in socialist
> economies that prevent the former to go further in a centrally capitalist
> economy?

Hi Alejandro:

The profit system. Also, while there can be conflicting interests in a
socialist system, there can and should be
a certain level of coordination among different producers. For instance,
consider how the diffusion of new
technologies is often retarded by the system of proprietary rights, such as
the patent system, under
capitalism. This incredible inefficiency would (or, at least, should) be
overcome in a socialist system where
producers would share knowledge about technologies. In any event, there
wouldn't be the same people vs.
profit equation in which the requirements of the latter trump the former
under socialism.

> Nothing in my criterion. Therefore the issue of diminishing returns to
> management.

What do you mean by diminishing returns "to management"? There can be - and
are - bureaucratic
inefficiencies wherever there are bureaucracies. A capitalist corporation is
an inherently
bureaucratic and hierarchical organization and there are many inefficiencies
that arise from

In solidarity, Jerry

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