[OPE] FWD: Important review of Kautskyism Past and Present

First point: I thinkDave Z was using the terms in the context of the state rather than production.
Second Point : are not the enterprise form and the separation of enterprises two sides of the same coin?

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From: "howard engelskirchen" <he31@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [OPE] Important review of Kautskyism Past and Present
Date: 12th August 2010
Time: 6:57:27 pm

the separation of the laboring producer from the conditions of production is
structural. The corporate form or forms of nationalized or state ownership
are institutional. The separation of enterprises from one another is
strucural; the enterprise form is institutional.

howard

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From: "Paul Cockshott" <wpc@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
To: "Dave Zachariah" <davez@kth.se>; "Outline on Political Economy mailing
list" <ope@lists.csuchico.edu>
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [OPE] Important review of Kautskyism Past and Present

> What is the difference between a structural and an intitutional mechanism?
>
> --- original message ---
> From: "Dave Zachariah" <davez@kth.se>
> Subject: Re: [OPE] Important review of Kautskyism Past and Present
> Date: 12th August 2010
> Time: 12:57:48 pm
>
>
> Lately I've become increasingly convinced that the problems of the
> orthodox theory of imperialism are really rooted in a flawed orthodox
> theory of operation of the state in a capitalist mode of
> production---which was a reasonable model up to the beginning of the
> 20th century but problematic since, as Vivek Chibber has pointed, it
> was based on personal and institutional rather than structural
> mechanisms of the state's class bias. Hence one must go there to
> resolve the foundational problems.
>
> //Dave Z
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