[OPE-L:2551] Re: FRP Models

John Ernst (ernst@nyc.pipeline.com)
Thu, 20 Jun 1996 11:01:06 -0700 (PDT)

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Paul,

I can't tell from your response whether or not you have
an example of capital-using technical change. My
remark, your comment and my response follow.


John




>John says:
>
>For now, I am willing to focus on the individual examples. As I said
>a few posts ago, in the mailing industry I have NEVER seen a machine
>that does not fall into the category of capital-saving and labor-saving
>except those that replaced living labor in an unmechanized industry.
>That is, once the industry began to mechanize and, hence, more
>mechanization meant the replacement of living and dead labor by the
>newer machines, capital-saving is the rule, not the exception.
>


Paul C:
How about the replacement of the 707 by the 747 jet?
The 747 was more expensive both absolutely and relative to the
wages of its crew, but, the wages of the crew relative
to the passengers carried fell.
Paul Cockshott



John responds:

The question is -- Does the precentage increase in constant capital
invested exceed the percentage increase in passengers carried? If
so, with a fewer other assumptions, you seem to have an example of
what I'm seeking as the "normal" way investment would increase relative
to output if we define the norm in the "usual" way Marx is interpreted.
This would, of course, contradict Marx's own statements concerning
increases in constant capital when machinery is already used in
the process of production.