[OPE-L:3446] RE: Value of Money

Alan Freeman (A.Freeman@greenwich.ac.uk)
Wed, 16 Oct 1996 01:09:03 -0700 (PDT)

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My examples concerning the Okishio theorem --- the one in the book and the
earlier one in the RRPE --- assume a constant MEV or value of money. They do
not derive it from anything.

Isn't it strange that we end up resolving this here!
In equation (5) on p214 of our book, you say

v(t+1)Q(t) = v(t)A(t) + N(t)

I would say

v(t+1)K(t+1) = v(t)K(t) + N(t) - v(t)[W(t) + B(t)]
K(t+1) = K(t) - A(t) - W(t) - B(t) + Q(t)

where W is wages and B is bourgeois consumption both
in use-value terms.

What you seem to disagree with me about is this: I think that, in Marx's
theory, the total value of the product, in LABOR-TIME terms, is the value of
the consumed constant capital (circulating + depreciation of fixed) and the
new value added by living labor. You seem to say that the change in the
value of the economy's assets during the accounting period --- again in
labor-time terms --- is the value added by living labor. These two concepts
give different answers.

I'm still not 100ure that this is what you say, however. In any case, the
difference in our interpretations of Marx's theory does *not* concern the
relation between labor-time and money.

Andrew Kliman

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