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Mike W wrote in [OPE-L:3984]:
> But the driving force of capitalism is th expansion of value via
> the accumulation of capital. An argument can be made that labour is the
> source of all *value*, and Marx's writings (neither in these quotes not
> elsewhere, as far as I know) do no disagree.
I have no disagreement with the above.
> I do not have time to present
> it know, but one such argument is in Reuten & Williams (1989)*Value-form
> and the State: ...*: Part 2, ch. 1, section 5).
Part 2: The Value-Form and its Reproduction; Ch. 1: The Value-Form; section
5: The value-form (pp. 60-62). [yes, I re-read that section just now].
> The practical effect of
> exploitation is then that workers do not control the deployment of surplus
> value that determines the future course of reproduction of the economy and
> society.
You define the "practical effect" above entirely in the negative, i.e.
that workers do *not* control the deployment of surplus-value. Yet there
are practical effects of the affirmative, i.e. that capitalists *do* control
the deployment of surplus-value. The consequences of this control extend
beyond workers to *other classes* and to the *non-social realm*.
Let me see if I can re-pose my question in a "value-form" kind of way:
Since the bourgeois mode of production is form determined, how does the
social form of commodity production peculiar to capitalism affect the
dialectic between social agents and nature? That is, what is the effect of
the social dimension, the value-form, on the natural dimension?
In solidarity, Jerry