[OPE-L:4171] Re: Negative Surplus Value

Duncan K. Fole (dkf2@columbia.edu)
Fri, 7 Feb 1997 19:48:21 -0800 (PST)

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In partial reply to John's OPE-L:3919:

>...Here let's consider a couple of cases.
>
>a. The net output is positive in money terms, profits negative,
>and the sum of the concrete labor times is positive.
>
>In this case the ratio of net output to concrete labor time is
>positive. One thus has a positive MEV.

This case is not really problematic analytically, though a capitalist
economy couldn't reproduce itself indefinitely under these circumstances.
Ex post in this case the value of labor-power exceeds unity.

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>
>b. The net output is negative in money terms, profits negative,
>and the sum of concrete labor times is positive.
>
>In this case the ratio of net output to concrete labor time is
>negative. One thus has a negative MEV. Thus for the constant
>capital advanced to be positive in terms of money, one would
>have to assume that the embodied labor time in the constant
>capital is negative.

I'd prefer to regard this as a case where the social productivity of labor
is negative.

Duncan

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