Chai-on wrote in [OPE-L:5278]:
Mike W:
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> And a Value not locked in contradictory unity with a Use-Value, is
> not a Commodity.
And a "value" not locked in contradictory unity with a use-value is _not  
value_ and *therefore* can not be a commodity. I.e. value is 
*socially-necessary-labor-time* (which comes to be expressed through the 
value-form) and if that "value" is not SNLT, *which presupposes the 
category use-value*, then it can not be value.
Chai-on:
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> Your [Mike W's, JL] definition of commodity seems to revolve around the 
> existence of use-value. IMO, however, value is more crucial than the 
> use-value to the definition of commodity. 
*Both* use-value and value, as well as the value-form, are crucial to the 
definition of (and understanding of) commodity under capitalism. 
My own opinion (it's too bad Steve K isn't on the list anymore) is that 
the de-emphasis of the category of use-value was a response to the 
marginalists. I.e. ,*after Marx* (perhaps beginning with Kautsky and 
Hilferding), once Marxists were confronted with the marginalist assault, 
they too frequently reacted by, in effect, throwing  use-value overboard 
in an attempt to differentiate their theory from subjectivist theories 
of value. 
In solidarity, Jerry