[OPE-L:5837] Re: [PAUL C] Re: commodities, money, and value

Paul Cockshott (wpc@CS.STRATH.AC.UK)
Mon, 15 Dec 1997 12:14:07 +0000

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Gerald Levy wrote:
> Do you really think that the National Health Service is a "communist
> element" within a capitalist social formation ???
it was explicitly set up according to the principle applying in
the higher phase of communism ' from each according to ability to
each according to need '.
After the 1940s the British social formation was a combination of
domestic, capitalist, state-capitalist and communist modes of
production. The political class struggle here since then has
centered on the struggle between modes of production and the
classes they throw up.

> > Does the process of cooking a meal at home in the US of A take place
> > 'under capitalism'.
> The product, though, does not take the commodity-form.
No it does not, but the work is socially necessary, so taking a
form is not a criterion for labour to be socially necessary even
within a predominantly capitalist social formation.

> > But you object to any attempt to improve our understanding of what
> > social labour time is now!
> No, I don't. What will improve our understanding of social labour time
> now?
Analysing contemporary social formations as a combination of modes of
production rather than restricting ourselves to a critique of the
categories of early 19th century economists.