From: Ian Wright (iwright@GMAIL.COM)
Date: Sat Jun 12 2004 - 12:19:46 EDT
Jerry, > Ellipses and circles can be rigorously and consistently > defined and comprehended. "Production" without (produced) > means of production posits a situation like Ajit suggested -- > silver pickers on a beach (where the silver can be picked up by > hand without requiring any implements). Even without a > division of labour -- even Robinson Crusoe! -- required means > of production. After all, even Robinson Crusoe was a 'tool-making > animal'. This makes no sense Jerry -- on what grounds can you maintain that a "circles can be rigorously and consistently defined and comprehended" and yet a simple production structure with labour as the only input cannot? There mere fact we can both comprehend silver (and k-1 other things) pickers on a beach makes it comprehensible. It could also refer to an economic experiment in the laboratory. It could also refer to a simple artificial market on the internet, say distributed processors bidding for jobs. It could also refer to k consumer commodities, abstracting from the indirect production processes. You are indulging in wordplay here. > I have no problem with your attempting to present a simplified case > of the MELT. You should expect, though, that collaborative thinking > -- whether on the Internet or anywhere else -- involves critical feedback > (unless it is 'brainstorming' whereby participants agree to, at least > initially, not be critical of each others' ideas). This is patronising, and doesn't add anything. > In any event, the issue of how we list commodity types is quite > different from a model type I was suggesting was inadequate > for representing, even in simplified form, the subject matter of > capitalism - a one-commodity model, like a "corn model." My "model" was a k-commodity model of market exchanges, if you'd been paying attention. Hrmph ... you've managed to irritate me ... for the first time on OPE-L. It had to happen sometime. Enjoy your holidays ! -Ian.
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