From: GERALD LEVY (gerald_a_levy@msn.com)
Date: Fri Apr 04 2008 - 10:39:07 EDT
you say:"It's not "nonsense": what Jurriaan is saying above is , I think, isan important and valid historical observation - namely, that bureaucracies- and all sorts of atrocities - have been rationalized with referenceto the language of 'dialectics'. You say it has been misused."Jurriaan says:Thus, this "dialectical totality" is merely the philosophical justification and rationalization of bureaucratic power. It is a sad thing when modern Marxists succumb to the same nonsense - and I say this as someone with a lengthy experience of bureaucratic absurdities.These are entirely different statements. People may misuse anything you may think it is safe. <snip>Dialectical concept of totality is an epistemological concept and means to grasp something you have to take it in all its dimensions and relations (external ans internal). Hi Dogan: I think you are simply mis-reading what Jurriaan has written. If you look at his para as a whole, you will see that his objection concerns the "discoursing" about dialectics by repressive bureaucracies, i.e. that they have historically (mis-) used the language of dialectics as a rationalization for their policies. In the extract above from that paragraph, please note that Jurriaan went out of his way to put "dialectical totality" in quotation marks. In solidarity, Jerry _______________________________________________ ope mailing list ope@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/ope
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