[OPE-L:4832] Re: Re: Re: Re: rent and the working class

From: Fred B. Moseley (fmoseley@mtholyoke.edu)
Date: Sun Feb 04 2001 - 09:43:15 EST


On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Allin Cottrell wrote:

> On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Fred B. Moseley wrote:
> 
> > Allin, I argue that the quantities of money-capital that are taken
> > as given are long-run average prices.  It is assumed that the
> > economy is in long-run equilibrium (i.e. equal profit rates across
> > industries) and that prices are long-run average prices, i.e.
> > prices of production.  Therefore, these quantities of
> > money-capital that are taken as given are not affected by the
> > deviations of market prices from prices of production.
> 
> OK, thanks for the clarification.  So short-run supply/demand
> disequilibria won't affect values, on this reading.  Changes in the
> wage rate, though, will affect values (since in general such changes
> alter relative prices of production).  To me, that too seems contrary
> to Marx's basic conception.
> 
> Allin Cottrell.


Allin, yes, you are right that, according to my interpretation of Marx's
theory, a change of wages will change the prices of production of the
means of production and therefore will affect the magnitude of constant
capital that is transferred to the value of commodities.  However, the
increase of wages:  (1) will not affect the new value component of the
value of commodities (because N = m Lc) and hence (2) will have an inverse
effect on surplus-value (since S = N - V = m (Lc - Ln)).   I argue that
these two propositions are the core of Marx's labor theory of value.  The
fact that the transferred value component of the price of commodities is
not proportional to the labor-time embodied in the means of production and
is affected by a change of wages does not change or affect either of these
two core propositions.  

As I have argued before, the quantity of past labor embodied in the means
of production already has acquired the social form of price.  Means of
production do not enter production as mere physical quantities, but rather
as commodities, i.e. with a price.  This price is the social expression of
the past labor embodied in the means of production (although it is not
proportional to this past labor), and it is in this social form of price
that the past labor embodied in the means of production enters into the
determination of the value of the output.  Because this past labor already
has acquired the form of price, it does not enter directly in the form of
labor-time into the determination of the value of the output.

Comradely,
Fred



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