On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Steve Keen wrote: > I'm also curious as to how Allin's results were arrived at. > > How do you reconcile them with the fact that price to earnings ratios have > reached historic highs during the last 2 years?: > > DJIA P/E ratio: 22.7; earnings $466.06 - dividend yield < 1.7% > S&P 500 P/E ratio: 24.5; earnings $50.81 - dividend yield < 1.3% > (data for April 23 2001 from fiendbear.com) My impression is that while the market was considerably higher at the end of the 1990s than it had been for several years, it was not out of line with the longer picture over the postwar years. The ratio to corporate profits was similar to the figure towards the end of the 1950s, and the late 1960s. Since people may well have doubts about the model I estimated, here are the (relatively) raw data. cpatax = Corporate Profits After Tax with IVA and CC Adjustment; Billions of dollars, SAAR tcm10y = Bond rate: 10-year Treasury Constant Maturity sp14 = DJ Industrial Average Close (av'ge of monthly values) pvprof = 100*cpatax/tcm10y djratio = sp14/pvprof cpatax tcm10y sp14 pvprof djratio 1959.1 29.2 3.99 599.7 731.8 0.81949 1959.2 31.9 4.26 637.1 748.8 0.85076 1959.3 29.1 4.50 657.0 646.7 1.01598 1959.4 29.9 4.58 661.7 652.8 1.01362 1960.1 31.4 4.49 623.1 699.3 0.89099 1960.2 29.4 4.26 622.6 690.1 0.90213 1960.3 29.5 3.83 607.6 770.2 0.78885 1960.4 28.4 3.89 597.8 730.1 0.81886 1961.1 27.6 3.79 662.3 728.2 0.90946 1961.2 30.5 3.79 686.5 804.7 0.85302 1961.3 31.4 3.98 708.8 788.9 0.89845 1961.4 33.2 3.97 718.9 836.3 0.85961 1962.1 37.1 4.02 705.0 922.9 0.76394 1962.2 36.6 3.87 613.3 945.7 0.64852 1962.3 37.2 3.99 595.4 932.3 0.63858 1962.4 39.4 3.90 630.4 1010.3 0.62400 1963.1 39.5 3.89 676.1 1015.4 0.66583 1963.2 41.3 3.96 717.2 1042.9 0.68768 1963.3 41.9 4.03 719.2 1039.7 0.69171 1963.4 42.9 4.12 756.2 1041.3 0.72626 1964.1 46.8 4.18 799.6 1119.6 0.71415 1964.2 46.7 4.20 821.0 1111.9 0.73835 1964.3 47.2 4.19 851.7 1126.5 0.75604 1964.4 46.7 4.17 874.2 1119.9 0.78060 1965.1 53.3 4.20 898.5 1269.0 0.70801 1965.2 54.5 4.21 902.8 1294.5 0.69737 1965.3 55.2 4.25 901.8 1298.8 0.69432 1965.4 57.3 4.47 958.9 1281.9 0.74807 1966.1 59.5 4.77 953.4 1247.4 0.76432 1966.2 58.2 4.78 896.0 1217.6 0.73587 1966.3 56.9 5.14 803.3 1107.0 0.72568 1966.4 58.7 5.00 794.8 1174.0 0.67700 1967.1 56.8 4.58 851.8 1240.2 0.68681 1967.2 55.9 4.82 870.0 1159.8 0.75016 1967.3 56.9 5.25 910.7 1083.8 0.84030 1967.4 58.2 5.64 886.9 1031.9 0.85944 1968.1 54.9 5.61 845.6 978.6 0.86405 1968.2 57.8 5.74 903.0 1007.0 0.89675 1968.3 57.8 5.46 904.9 1058.6 0.85483 1968.4 58.1 5.77 960.4 1006.9 0.95382 1969.1 57.2 6.18 928.9 925.6 1.00363 1969.2 55.3 6.35 920.3 870.9 1.05680 1969.3 54.1 6.86 821.8 788.6 1.04202 1969.4 49.5 7.30 822.9 678.1 1.21357 1970.1 46.2 7.37 769.1 626.9 1.22690 1970.2 49.6 7.71 706.7 643.3 1.09847 1970.3 48.4 7.46 753.1 648.8 1.16082 1970.4 44.9 6.85 796.2 655.5 1.21469 1971.1 54.4 6.02 883.9 903.7 0.97814 1971.2 55.6 6.25 913.6 889.6 1.02694 1971.3 58.4 6.48 881.2 901.2 0.97780 1971.4 61.2 5.89 853.5 1039.0 0.82142 1972.1 64.5 6.03 923.7 1069.7 0.86352 1972.2 65.3 6.14 948.0 1063.5 0.89135 1972.3 69.2 6.29 947.2 1100.2 0.86099 1972.4 72.5 6.37 997.9 1138.1 0.87678 1973.1 76.3 6.60 968.4 1156.1 0.83765 1973.2 72.5 6.81 904.8 1064.6 0.84992 1973.3 74.6 7.21 920.4 1034.7 0.88953 1973.4 75.2 6.75 876.6 1114.1 0.78684 1974.1 69.8 7.05 854.3 990.1 0.86284 1974.2 65.6 7.54 813.8 870.0 0.93537 1974.3 56.6 7.96 681.3 711.1 0.95815 1974.4 58.7 7.67 633.5 765.3 0.82772 1975.1 67.9 7.54 737.0 900.5 0.81841 1975.2 77.4 8.05 844.2 961.5 0.87801 1975.3 88.8 8.30 820.2 1069.9 0.76666 1975.4 94.3 8.06 849.7 1170.0 0.72625 1976.1 99.1 7.75 982.5 1278.7 0.76833 1976.2 94.6 7.77 991.6 1217.5 0.81448 1976.3 95.4 7.73 982.8 1234.2 0.79636 1976.4 96.3 7.19 972.3 1339.4 0.72592 1977.1 101.2 7.35 936.6 1376.9 0.68026 1977.2 117.1 7.37 914.0 1588.9 0.57523 1977.3 130.2 7.36 866.2 1769.0 0.48967 1977.4 123.1 7.60 826.4 1619.7 0.51022 1978.1 120.8 8.01 756.5 1508.1 0.50160 1978.2 134.1 8.32 832.3 1611.8 0.51639 1978.3 137.3 8.49 868.3 1617.2 0.53692 1978.4 142.7 8.82 798.8 1617.9 0.49374 1979.1 135.4 9.11 836.7 1486.3 0.56297 1979.2 135.2 9.11 839.7 1484.1 0.56582 1979.3 134.2 9.10 870.9 1474.7 0.59053 1979.4 133.3 10.45 825.6 1275.6 0.64723 1980.1 120.2 11.99 841.6 1002.5 0.83950 1980.2 108.8 10.48 845.3 1038.2 0.81422 1980.3 108.8 10.95 933.4 993.6 0.93944 1980.4 117.0 12.42 960.6 942.0 1.01971 1981.1 129.9 12.96 975.3 1002.3 0.97302 1981.2 132.4 13.75 988.8 962.9 1.02692 1981.3 148.0 14.85 894.6 996.6 0.89762 1981.4 141.0 14.09 872.2 1000.7 0.87158 1982.1 130.7 14.29 839.4 914.6 0.91779 1982.2 141.3 13.93 826.6 1014.4 0.81490 1982.3 141.2 13.12 868.7 1076.2 0.80721 1982.4 139.4 10.67 1025.8 1306.5 0.78519 1983.1 159.2 10.56 1106.1 1507.6 0.73369 1983.2 174.7 10.54 1216.1 1657.5 0.73368 1983.3 182.3 11.63 1216.2 1567.5 0.77587 1983.4 191.4 11.69 1253.3 1637.3 0.76545 1984.1 204.8 11.94 1180.0 1715.2 0.68797 1984.2 215.6 13.20 1136.0 1633.3 0.69553 1984.3 218.2 12.87 1182.1 1695.4 0.69725 1984.4 224.3 11.74 1202.6 1910.6 0.62946 1985.1 219.9 11.58 1279.2 1899.0 0.67363 1985.2 225.5 10.81 1303.0 2086.0 0.62463 1985.3 236.0 10.34 1336.7 2282.4 0.58566 1985.4 222.3 9.76 1464.4 2277.7 0.64293 1986.1 209.8 8.56 1699.6 2450.9 0.69344 1986.2 199.3 7.60 1851.1 2622.4 0.70590 1986.3 189.1 7.31 1813.7 2586.9 0.70113 1986.4 178.9 7.26 1896.0 2464.2 0.76942 1987.1 197.6 7.19 2228.9 2748.3 0.81102 1987.2 216.3 8.34 2332.2 2593.5 0.89923 1987.3 229.6 8.88 2610.5 2585.6 1.00962 1987.4 234.5 9.12 1922.0 2571.3 0.74748 1988.1 254.9 8.42 2006.0 3027.3 0.66262 1988.2 265.0 8.91 2068.4 2974.2 0.69544 1988.3 268.3 9.10 2091.1 2948.4 0.70924 1988.4 283.3 8.96 2143.9 3161.8 0.67807 1989.1 253.4 9.21 2298.1 2751.4 0.83526 1989.2 253.5 8.77 2446.4 2890.5 0.84634 1989.3 257.1 8.11 2696.9 3170.2 0.85072 1989.4 252.9 7.91 2701.5 3197.2 0.84496 1990.1 269.5 8.42 2641.7 3200.7 0.82534 1990.2 285.9 8.68 2804.7 3293.8 0.85152 1990.3 253.9 8.70 2657.4 2918.4 0.91056 1990.4 262.6 8.40 2545.2 3126.2 0.81416 1991.1 303.1 8.02 2844.2 3779.3 0.75256 1991.2 296.6 8.13 2940.7 3648.2 0.80607 1991.3 292.2 7.94 3028.4 3680.1 0.82291 1991.4 298.7 7.35 3044.2 4063.9 0.74907 1992.1 325.4 7.30 3242.2 4457.5 0.72735 1992.2 318.4 7.38 3358.2 4314.4 0.77837 1992.3 272.6 6.62 3307.6 4117.8 0.80325 1992.4 323.3 6.74 3277.5 4796.7 0.68328 1993.1 321.4 6.28 3372.0 5117.8 0.65887 1993.2 338.1 5.99 3490.4 5644.4 0.61838 1993.3 346.2 5.62 3582.0 6160.1 0.58148 1993.4 374.8 5.61 3706.2 6680.9 0.55475 1994.1 333.4 6.07 3815.5 5492.6 0.69466 1994.2 386.4 7.08 3688.4 5457.6 0.67582 1994.3 404.1 7.33 3840.4 5513.0 0.69661 1994.4 422.0 7.84 3827.2 5382.7 0.71103 1995.1 427.0 7.48 4004.2 5708.6 0.70144 1995.2 446.7 6.62 4447.5 6747.7 0.65911 1995.3 474.1 6.32 4702.7 7501.6 0.62690 1995.4 483.4 5.89 4982.4 8207.1 0.60708 1996.1 517.0 5.91 5489.3 8747.9 0.62750 1996.2 523.3 6.72 5622.3 7787.2 0.72199 1996.3 531.1 6.78 5675.8 7833.3 0.72457 1996.4 550.2 6.34 6333.1 8678.2 0.72977 1997.1 571.5 6.56 6758.1 8711.9 0.77573 1997.2 593.7 6.70 7337.6 8861.2 0.82806 1997.3 613.1 6.24 7930.1 9825.3 0.80711 1997.4 607.9 5.91 7724.5 10286.0 0.75098 1998.1 580.4 5.59 8417.3 10382.8 0.81070 1998.2 568.2 5.60 8971.8 10146.4 0.88423 1998.3 569.0 5.20 8088.3 10942.3 0.73918 1998.4 564.1 4.67 8963.4 12079.2 0.74205 1999.1 604.3 4.98 9483.9 12134.5 0.78156 1999.2 585.9 5.54 10773.2 10575.8 1.01866 1999.3 587.9 5.88 10607.2 9998.3 1.06090 1999.4 622.3 6.14 11034.9 10135.2 1.08878 2000.1 650.0 6.48 10663.6 10030.9 1.06308 2000.2 671.5 6.18 10568.0 10865.7 0.97260 2000.3 679.7 5.89 10796.0 11539.9 0.93554 2000.4 647.0 5.57 10724.5 11615.8 0.92327 The model I estimated was in "error correction" form: ld_sp14(t) = beta_0 + beta_1 ld_pvprof(t) + beta_2(l_pvprof(t-1) - l_sp14(t-1)) + u_t where "ld_" denotes a log-difference (first difference of log) and "l_" denotes a natural log. The implied long-run proportion is exp(beta_0/beta_2), which I found to be 0.906. Allin.
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