Paul Z, I urge you to reconsider mostly out of selfish reasons. I have learned a great deal from your reconstruction and defense of Luxemburg's theory of accumulation and your careful attempt to specify just what accumulation is. The list would be greatly impoverished by your absence. I have no beef against Alan Freeman or Jerry Levy--in fact I have had more disagreements with Jerry than Alan F or Andrew K on this list--and I would very much hope that at some point Alan and Jerry will all again be engaged in discussion, each drawing from his analytical skills and mastery of the Marxist tradition and learning from each other in the process. Yes, there is a danger that emails we write will be circulated to wreck job chances. No one on this list knows this better than I. But in my case the emails were fabricated; I think we all have to understand any email we write has the possibility either by accident or by intention of entering the public domain. And Alan most certainly allowed Jerry to circulate his plan to organize a boycott of OPE to the OPE list. And I can't see anything in this email that could prejudice an employer against someone as brilliant as Alan. Alejandro says that Alan's permission was akin to that a beaten wife gives to her abusive husband. With all due (and great) respect for Alejandro, this is absurd. Alan himself was quite clear that part of him wanted his true anger at Jerry regarding the re admission of Kliman to be known to OPE-L, so Alan explicitly left the decision to circulate his call for a boycott in Jerry's hands. It is true that Alan said he would prefer that it not be circulated, but as list co-coordinator I say that it was not in bad faith that Jerry could understand Alan to be divided about whether the message would be circulated. In fact Alan underlined that there was nothing in it that he would not say in public. Jerry did not include the names of the people to whom Alan's call for a boycott was circulated, and this was Alan's main concern. It seems to me that Alan was trying to organize people offlist to support his campaign for the reinstatement of Kliman and Jerry then tried on list to rally support for the way in which he was proceeding with the question of Kliman's reinstatement. And let it be known that Jerry was more willing to waive conditions for Andrew's reinstatement than some of the rest of us were. I don't think Alan or Andrew ever realized that Jerry was in many ways a softie on the issue. I think it is good for the list that we know how alienated the TSS school feels and how difficult it has been for Jerry to balance Alan's requests with the demands of other OPE-l members. Let us support each other at least at the existential level. Would any of us have done a better job moderating this dispute than Jerry? Jerry went against other listmembers in agreeing to the most minimal conditions for Kliman's reinstatement. It is probable that most of us would have given up long ago. As comrades, I think we should what we can reasonably do lessen the alienation of the TSS school--the real difficulties that it faces--and the burdens on Jerry and attempt to being anew, though I continue to be put off by Andrew at times in the course of discussion. I have had greater problems with Gil. Jerry seems to me to let bygones be bygones. All he wants of new members and readmits that they be bound by the same list rules as existing OPE-L members are. Andrew need not make an apology, Jerry need not make an apology. Paul Z, I urge you to remain as the list would suffer greatly from your absence; I urge you to use your standing and authority to request that Alejandro and Alan return as well. Let me do some specific reply. >Please 'Unsubscribe' me, effective: noon, Saturday, March 16. > >Jerry referred to "threats against the list", Yes, I would not describe Alan's call for a boycott a threat against the list. > and baiting each of us to >ask for a private message falling into his hands. If we asked, we become >part of the theatre. If we asked, we may find difficult an 'out. So, we >accept the problem as being that of an inside saboteur among our members. > >Yet, what could be "threats against the list"? Jerry is referring to Alan's desire to organize a boycott of OPE-L in protest to the difficulties in the reinstatement of Andrew Kliman. From my perspective, Kliman does have a perfectly reasonable offer from Jerry on the table to rejoin the list. I helped to word the offer. The offer involves no apologies. This was Jerry's ideas. If Jerry were not coordinator, he would have been the most insistent one for an apology. But he has done a marvelous job serving as a moderator. That Kliman is not taking it seems to me the source of the problem. And I do not understand why Alan is blaming Jerry for this or wanting to deprive all of us of TSS contributions on account of what seems to me Kliman's intransigience. The TSS perspective is very valuable; Kliman's contributions are very valuable. So let us be done with this. Andrew can make the request for the readmit as I have laid out. Andrew will be readmitted; there will be no loss of face for anyone. And then you, Alejandro, Alan, Ted can rejoin. Please urge Kliman offlist to accept the Levy/Bhandari (minimal) conditions for re-admit. > Jerry has the only power >over who's on the list (optionally choosing some to consult). > 1) Is the listserver at Chico State College threatening the list? No. > 2) Are the capitalists on to us -- multiple options here? No. > >In fact, even from the incitement itself [OPE-l:6672] we know we are safe, >... except from ourselves. We go on. Enticement ("leading on by exciting >desire") wins. Its win reflects on our political savvy. It is a loss for >the movement we are to represent. > >If this is not enough, consider entrapment. When asked [OPE-L:6713], "was >the original email sender told TO WHOM you have forwarded the mis-sent >email"?, no answer was forthcoming from Jerry [OPE-L:6718]. Thus, a >private, mis-sent email is now seemingly in hands unknown to the original >sender, perhaps being further passed around, and damaging reputation and >livelihood, probably in ways never to be known. (To reply that requester >names have to be kept confidential would beg the question of having >started this whole secret process in the first place.) Again Alan was quite divided about whether the note should circulate. He could have told Jerry not to circulate it; he could have presented Jerry with a rewritten version for the purposes of circulation. But he did not. He left it in Jerry's hands. Now Jerry decided to go public with this. Why? Well, why not ask Jerry offlist to explain his motives? Rakesh
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