I take the point, but in both cases capitalists are supplying both markets only to make a profit--it's just that investment capitalists won't make a profit unless the consumer ones are doing likewise at a sufficient scale. Keynes, by the way, was a great fan of Marx's M--C--M+ analysis, and quoted it in an early draft of the General Theory. Unfortunately, it was edited out. I think the GT would have been a lot less obscure if he had quoted it. Steve At 03:47 AM 22/03/2002 Friday, you wrote: >Steve writes in 6794 > >>The argument in that chapter was just to explain Keynes's critique of >>Say's Law Rakesh: it wasn't the basis of my entire analysis of cycles in >>capitalism! -:) >> >>All that Keynes was trying to do in his D1/D2 analysis was counter the >>neoclassical view that if there are 2 markets and one goes down, the >>other must go up--insufficient demand in one means excess demand in the >>other. Keynes simply divided output into two markets and gave an >>explanation why if one (consumption) went down, then the other >>(investment) was likely to go down too--not up. > >Well of course I do not disagree with the possibility either in theory or >reality of general gluts. > >My point is that the claim that the demand for investment goods derives >from the demand for consumption goods seems to be a euphemistic way of >articulating the pretty conception that the aim of capitalist production >is the direct satisfaction of the consumption of the producers. > >This is why I am sensing something of a contradiction in this chapter. > >All the best, Rakesh Home Page: http://www.debunking-economics.com http://bus.uws.edu.au/steve-keen/ http://www.stevekeen.net Dr. Steve Keen Associate Professor of Economics & Finance School of Economics and Finance Campbelltown Campus, Building 11 Room 30, UNIVERSITY WESTERN SYDNEY LOCKED BAG 1797 PENRITH SOUTH DC NSW 1797 Australia s.keen@uws.edu.au 61 2 4620-3016 Fax 61 2 4626-6683 Home 02 9580-4663 Mobile 0409 716 088
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