Re David Y's [7l2l] : > I would like to think that he could have been referring to the law of the tendency of the rate of profit to fall - 'the most important law of modern political economy and the most essential one for understanding the most complicated relationships. It is the most important law from an historical standpoint....' (Grundrisse p654 1953 German edition) < Hi David. Thanks, as always, for your comments. As you say, Engels _could have_ been referring to the LTGRPD. Yet, as we know, the drafts for what became Volume 3 were not published by Engels until after his death. Nor do we have reason to believe that Engels read the drafts prior to Marx's death -- do we? Nor do we have reason to believe that Engels, prior to Marx's death, read the drafts for what were later published as the _Grundrisse_ -- do we? Nor, of course, did Marx refer to the LTGRPD as the "law of motion" of bourgeois society. However, I will grant you that, _if_ you interpret "this work" to mean all of _Capital_, then it is a reasonable possibility. It would, however, make the remainder of what became Volume 3 somewhat of an anti-climax (and Marx had a dramatic flair and the 'climax' of his 'stories' was generally reserved for the end.) There have been a number of interpretations of what the "economic law of motion" is. E.g. one author claimed that the General Law of Capitalist Accumulation was for Marx "the Law of Motion of Capitalist Society". What is most troubling about this interpretation is that the author stated it as fact rather than identifying it as speculative. The least the author could have done was to suggest this as one possible interpretation -- and, even better, offer some arguments for _why_ the GLCA should be understood as _the_ law of motion -- rather than merely putting forward such a bold, unsubstantiated assertion as if it were self-evident. In the same source, that author advised _others_ on "How to Teach Capital". That author's name was Raya Dunayevskaya ("Outline of Marx's Capital", Detroit, News and Letters Committee, l979, pp. 53-54; originally published with the pseudonym of Freddie Forrest.) > More important in the speech of Engels was the following: For Marx was before all else a revolutionist. His real mission in life was to contribute, in one way or another, to the overthrow of capitalist society and of the state institutions which it had brought into being, to contribute to the liberation of the modern proletariat, which he was the first to make conscious of its own position and its needs, conscious of the conditions of its emancipation. Fighting was his element. And he fought with a passion... The clause "in one way or another" is interesting -- and, I think, quite accurate. It reflects how Marx at various points in his life attempted to contribute in _various_ ways to the revolutionary movement. > His law of the tendency of the rate of profit to fall has some bearing on this point - much of the discussion on Marx today seems to have none! < Excuse me if you think you've already answered some of the following questions in-print previously, but I think they are important enough to ask anyway -- and may spark an interesting discussion: I. What exactly *is* the bearing of the LTGRPD to the mission of overthrowing capitalism and the liberation of the working class? II. In addition to being a part of a critique of political economy, is it part of an implicit critique of *reformism*? Yet, doesn't such a critique require for its fuller development a comprehension of the state-form (something that Marx abstracted from in _Capital_)? And, can't a critique of reformism be developed without grasping the significance of the LTGRPD? III. Put in the context of comprehending the dynamics of the current crisis, don't we have to move _beyond_ a comprehension of the LTGRPD as presented in Volume 3? Indeed wasn't Marx well aware of these limitations? E.g. in Vol 3, Ch. l4, Section 2 Marx indicates -- in a short paragraph -- that a "reduction in wages below their value" is "one of the most important factors in stemming the tendency for the rate of profit to fall" yet "has nothing to do with the general analysis of capital, but has its place in an account of competition, which is not dealt with in this work". So how would you employ this factor -- *along with others not discussed at length (or at all) in _Capital_ by Marx* -- to comprehend the _current crisis_ and the tasks of overthrowing capitalism and participating in the self-emancipation of the proletariat which was, as Engels (and you) reminded us, Marx's "real mission in life"? IV. A follow-up question: as you are aware, Lenin (and the rest of the Bolshevik theoreticians) didn't make much of the LTGRPD. Indeed, in general, Lenin -- along with other Bolsheviks -- advanced disproportionality and/or underconsumptionist theories of crisis (see Richard B. Day's _The 'Crisis' and the 'Crash'_.) Yet, he -- along with others -- made a revolution anyway. Wouldn't this seem to suggest that a grasp of the LTGRPD is *not essential* from the standpoint of Lenin's and Marx's "real mission in life" ? In solidarity, Jerry
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