Re Riccardo's [7l52]: I'll skip over your other questions and go directly to what we both view as the "real issue now": > In my view, Desai's book, though > obliquely, put forward the real issue now. Marx thought that the > 'natural' development of capitalism, including its tendency to > globalization, creates its own grave-diggers, homogeneised and > united. The end of XXth century shows the opposite: capital's > accumulation going on, and the tendency to division winning over the > tendency towards unification. This seems to me a much bigger problem > than the transformation, even if this latter would have been > perfectly resolved in the Master oeuvre. Well, yes, the prospects for international working-class unity are somewhat more important than debates around the 'transformation problem'. Marx certainly held that capitalism creates its own [potential] gravediggers (the working class), but what exactly were his claims about how the working class would become a) "homogenized" and b) united? On a), it does seem to me that he made the claim that over time, complex labor would become replaced to an increasing extent by simple labor so in this sense there was some type of 'homogenization' process suggested. And I think that overall, from a historical standpoint (consider the factory system) this has been an observable tendency. Yet, I think he also clearly recognized that the process of class homogenization would be an _incomplete_ and _uneven_ process -- indeed he recognizes that the division of labour divides workers (as well as other classes) into an "infinite fragmentation of interests and positions" in the very last sentence of _Capital_ (VIII). I think he tends to assume in _Capital_ -- as a *simplifying assumption* -- the "collective labourer". In this sense, workers as well as capitalists are assumed to be wearing "character masks". Yet, as the last chapter of _Capital_ makes clear, this is *only* an assumption and class diversity is recognized as an essential part of "the question to be answered next". Of course, Marx as a revolutionary and an internationalist was very well aware of all of the following class divisions, based on issues other than skill, since they existed in his own time as well as our own (the following are not ranked in order of importance): -- divisions between unionized and non-unionized workers; -- divisions between employed workers and members of the IRA; -- divisions among workers based on race, gender, nationality, religion, etc.; -- regional differences among workers in terms of wages, benefits, and the cost-of-living; -- divisions based on the presence or absence of trade union consciousness; -- divisions based on the presence or absence of class consciousness; -- political divisions among the working class (including not only whether workers support bourgeois political parties and are reformist but also divisions among socialist and revolutionary groups and parties); -- divisions among workers based on nationalism; -- divisions among organized workers between the rank-and-file and the trade union 'leadership' (and the collaboration of trade union 'leaders' with capitalists, e.g. "labor-management cooperation"); -- divisions internationally among workers based on different histories of class struggle and therefore: * different levels of wages and benefits; * different understandings of solidarity; * different experiences in terms of militancy; * different qualities of trade union and class consciousness; * attachment to nationalism -- as a dividing force -- to a greater or lesser extent; *attachment to religion -- as a dividing force -- to a greater or lesser extent; *educational and cultural differences among workers; * different understandings of race, gender, ethnicity, etc.; * different understandings of prospects for victory or failure based on understandings of past successes and failures. Etc. Etc. Etc. How these concrete differences are overcome, Marx is somewhat vague about. Certainly the image of the "expropriators are expropriated" is mechanistic and over-simplified if _only_ taken in the context of Volume One of _Capital_. I.e. class polarization, and even immizerization, does not automatically translate into class unity and gravedigging. What is required -- but is *not* a consequence of the accumulation of capital -- is for workers to bring about working-class unity and then act as revolutionaries. This requires working-class subjectivity. It requires that workers conceive of themselves not as simple unity (the collective laborer) but recognize their divisions and succeed through self-activity (praxis; learning-by-doing) of bringing about unity-in-diversity. And I agree that Marx and Engels tended to gloss over some problems. For example, consider the famous line from _The Communist Manifesto_: "you have nothing to lose but your chains". Well, workers know that they have something _more_ to lose than their chains, e.g. they have their lives and the lives of their loved ones to lose. In the more advanced capitalist economies (this might relate to David Y's concern about the "labour aristocracy") workers also know that they have their homes, cars, TVs, computers, etc. to lose. (and, yes, workers attachment to their material possessions can form an impediment to revolutionary action.) So, even if they recognize that they have a "world to gain", they also recognize that there is more than "chains" that they can lose. The real issue -- and I think you are correct about this -- is that workers internationally are *not* become more united and therefore the tendency to division is at least *conjuncturally* winning out over the tendency to unity. And, this process isn't going to be reversed by Marxists just calling for international working-class solidarity and unity. Of course, there are some who might respond by pointing to hopeful developments on the international scene where workers are becoming increasingly militant and united. Unfortunately, one could easily point to counter-developments which show on the international level the opposite trend. One might claim -- as some Marxists have claimed -- that capitalism will be prone to ever greater crisis, but: a) capitalism has shown itself to be incredibly resilient and capable of overcoming crisis (to a great extent because in a crisis they are often more united as a class in opposition to the working class than vice versa), and; b) no matter 'how bad it gets' still requires the self-activity of the working class and we have to remember that simply because workers are attacked to a greater extent doesn't automatically mean that they will fight back to a greater extent (e.g. consider the "concessions movement" in the US during the 80's: rather than fighting back in large numbers, workers -- largely betrayed by class collaborationist and pragmatic trade union bureaucrats -- were forced into conceding "give-backs"). As trite as it may sound, though, I don't think that these questions can be resolved theoretically -- they can only be resolved though praxis. Yet, there is no reason to necessarily believe that they will be necessarily favorably resolved through praxis. We can't trust that there will be a "happy ending". We can't accept Marx's maxim that mankind (sic) never sets itself problems that it can't solve. Even if that was true in the past, it doesn't mean that it will continue to be true in the future. Environmental destruction, for instance. Nuclear destruction, for instance (which remains a possibility despite the end of the "Cold War".) At some point, it _may_ become a problem that can't be solved. Rather than lose the things they own, capital _could_ destroy the world. The "negation of the negation" _could_ be the annihilation of all life on this planet. Capital, rather than Marx, might have its Revenge. We can not simply assume that everything will work out in the end and we can go fishing in the morning, etc. History is open ended. Is there anyone out there who can convince me, and others, that I am wrong? I want to be wrong. I want a happy ending ... even though I don't assume one. In solidarity, Jerry
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