From: michael a. lebowitz (mlebowit@SFU.CA)
Date: Wed Nov 12 2003 - 10:47:06 EST
At 21:23 11/11/2003 -0800, Ajit wrote: > In Marx's theory real wages are >taken as given at any point of time, as the real wages >are supposed to be determined in a long term >socio-historical context (and not just class >struggle). It is not clear why that determination would support the assumption of given wages, but in any event it is not Marx's point. Marx repeatedly indicated that he was making the assumption of constant real wages (an assumption to be removed under 'wage labour') in order not to confound everything. The logic behind the assumption is best explained in the 1861-63 Economic Manuscript, where he noted that the question of wage movements 'do not belong here, where the general capital-relation is to be developed, but in the doctrine of the wages of labour.' >Given this real wages, the methods of >production, and the length of the working day, Marx >derives from these data the rate of surplus value or >the rate of exploitation s/v. Now, by calling s/v the >relative strength of the two classes and keeping it >constant to determine the real wage in turn is simply >theoretically illegitimate. You cannot get s/v unless >you take w as given. Therefore, you cannot take s/v as >given to derive w. Cheers, ajit sinha Let w= U/q, where w, U and q are necessary labour, the real wage and productivity respectively. Then, assuming U given, Marx explored the effect of changes in q on necessary labour. If we let s=d-w, where s and d are surplus labour and the workday respectively, then (assuming the length and intensity of the workday constant), then (the rate of exploitation) s/w = (dq/U)-1, and increases in q with a given U clearly imply a rising rate of exploitation. But, what is the logic behind the assumption of a given U? What gives it plausibility? What makes it any more plausible, eg, than assuming the balance of class forces (and thus s/w) given at a given point of time--- which, after all, is the opening assumption in Marx's falling rate of profit discussion (Vol. III, Ch. 13)? In this case, increases in q imply real wages rise at the same rate as productivity--- which, all other things equal, would tend to occur in a commodity money economy (as Rakesh noted) with constant money wages. We come back, then, to the question I posed earlier-- what happens to the theory of relative surplus value once we no longer assume the real wage given? in solidarity, michael --------------------- Michael A. Lebowitz Professor Emeritus Economics Department Simon Fraser University Burnaby, B.C., Canada V5A 1S6 Office Fax: (604) 291-5944 Home: Phone (604) 689-9510
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