From: Howard Engelskirchen (howarde@TWCNY.RR.COM)
Date: Fri Jun 04 2004 - 18:26:01 EDT
Hi Jerry, I thought I said the opposite. I intended to anyway. No, I don't think there's any place for relations of value in a classless society. Howard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald A. Levy" <Gerald_A_Levy@MSN.COM> To: <OPE-L@SUS.CSUCHICO.EDU> Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 5:09 PM Subject: [OPE-L] (OPE-L) Re: the specific social relations [of production] associated with value > Hi Howard. > > > It might be worth making explicit a political consequence of this debate > > that is of no small significance. If value exists only where there is > > capital, then we can exchange products for gold under communism. Market > > socialism will certainly play an important role in any transition, to be > > sure, but there is also the theoretical question of whether markets are > > compatible with the social form that we want to transition to. If there's > > no necessary connection between value and markets, they are. This is a > > whole other debate, I realize, but I think the implications of Marx's > theory > > are to the contrary. > > So -- from your perspective -- the social relations [of production] > associated with value can persist in a *classless* society? (Maybe > I have misunderstood you but that seems to be what you are suggesting.) > > Of course, there _are_ necessary connections between value and > markets. Did anyone suggest otherwise? > > In solidarity, Jerry
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