Re: [OPE-L] Marx: In Our Time

From: glevy@PRATT.EDU
Date: Wed Jul 20 2005 - 11:36:41 EDT

In solidarity, Jerry
Isle au Haut

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Subject: Re: [OPE-L] Marx: In Our Time
From:    "Jurriaan Bendien" <>
Date:    Tue, July 19, 2005 9:48 pm

The curious part is that Marx himself distanced himself from philosophical
endeavours and at least in his mature years saw himself as somebody
scientifically investigating modern society by means of a rational inquiry
into the known facts. (The German Ideology: "one must leave philosophy
aside... philosophy is to the real world as masturbation is to sexual love")

Engels even claimed later that philosophy was now largely redundant except
for logic and the theory of knowledge. Both men specifically rejected the
idea of some kind of "philosophy of history".

Also interesting how a thinker who had  ""The philosophers have interpreted
the world in various ways, the point is change it" engraved on his tombstone
gets to have the status of "greatest philosopher".

When I was a philosophy student, I was taught that philosophy concerns the
most general questions about people and the world. The general tenor of
Marx's approach would however appear to be that problems posed in a
"general, speculative philosophical way" permit of no real solution; a real
science would concern itself with limited truths and specifics; i.e. the
real question concerned the processes by which we arrive at our

It could of course be argued that Marx could never really abandoned
philosophy himself despite his criticisms of philosophers.


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