Re: [OPE-L] price of production/supply price/value

From: Fred Moseley (fmoseley@MTHOLYOKE.EDU)
Date: Sun Feb 05 2006 - 12:07:51 EST


Hi Ian, in a couple of recent posts you have mentioned that
Marx himself admitted that his determination of prices of
production was incomplete, because he failed to transform
the inputs from values to prices of production.  I can't
find the posts right now, but I would like to respond to
this widely held view.

The passages in which Marx is alleged to have acknowledged that his
determination of prices of production is incomplete can be interpreted in
another way, as I have argued in a paper in Science and Society 2001,
"Marx's Alleged Logical Error:  A Comment on Laibman".

Briefly, I argue, with substantial textual support, that the magnitude of
the cost price is taken as given (both the constant capital and the
variable capital) in the determination of both values and prices of
production   And the crucial point is that the SAME magnitude of the cost
price - the actual cost price consumed in production - is taken as given
in the determination of both values and prices of production.

But this is not the end of the story.  The given cost price is also
eventually explained by Marx's theory, in a somewhat complicated manner,
that involves two stages.  In the first stage, it is assumed that the
given cost price is equal to the values of the means of production and
means of subsistence.  Marx made this provisional assumption in Volume 1
because prices of production cannot be explained until later in the
theory.  The provisional microeconomic assumption that constant capital
and variable capital are equal to the values of the means of production
and means of subsistence is the only assumption that is consistent with
the macro theory of value and surplus-value in Volume 1, at this high
level of abstraction.

However, the important point is that this provisional assumption about the
actual magnitudes of constant capital and variable capital does not
determine the magnitudes of constant capital and variable capital in
Marx's theory of value and surplus-value in Volume 1.  Instead, the
magnitudes of constant capital and variable capital are taken as given, as
the actual quantities of money-capital consumed in production.  These
initial actual given quantities of constant capital and variable capital
then become determining factors in the value and surplus-value and price
of production of commodities.

In the second stage, after prices of production have been explained in
Volume 3, Marx provides a more complete explanation of the given actual
magnitudes of constant capital and variable capital - that these actual
magnitudes are equal to the prices of production of the means of
production and means of subsistence, not equal to their values.  But the
important point is that this more complete explanation of the given actual
magnitudes of constant capital and variable capital does not change the
magnitudes of constant capital and variable capital themselves.  The
magnitudes of constant capital and variable capital remain the same - the
actual quantities of money capital costs consumed in the production of
commodities, which are taken as given.  What changes is the explanation
of these given actual magnitudes - from a partial explanation to a more
complete one.

I think this is what Marx meant by the "modification of the determination
of a commodity's cost price", on p. 264 of Vol. 3 (Vintage edition), which
is perhaps the best known of Marx's alleged "admissions of error".  The
magnitude of the given cost price does not change, but the explanation of
this given magnitude is modified.

I think this logical procedure - of first taking the actual cost price as
given and then later in the theory explaining this initial presupposition
- is an example of what Hegel and Marx called the method "posit the
presuppositions".

Thanks again for the discussion.

Fred


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