Re: [OPE-L] Muslim influence on the West

From: Paul Bullock (paulbullock@EBMS-LTD.CO.UK)
Date: Sun Mar 12 2006 - 12:53:36 EST

Paul, these bits are quite well known over here, (although probably the 3
course meal bit isn't!) Newton knew about Ibn al-Shatir and a copy of his
work was placed in Oxford Library at, or before, Newton's time. The Arab
universities ( ie Cordoba  of Averroes / ie Ibn Rushd, Aviccena   and the
influential medical man Ibn Zuhr) and their influence ( via Spain) is
obviously known pretty much by shool kids in that country and other European
states. Educated 15 year olds here generally know that the compass ( so euro
exploration, after Ibn al Athir's '12th century History of the World',)
classical Greek thought, and lots of medicine came via the Arabs. This
general understanding I think affects  European thought  in an inescapable
way  that  it does not seem to in the US. Neverthless everything worth
knowing is worth repeating!.

Paul Bullock

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Zarembka" <zarembka@BUFFALO.EDU>
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 1:26 PM
Subject: [OPE-L] Muslim influence on the West

> For a change of pace, check out today's article from THE INDEPENDENT, "How
> Islamic inventors changed the world":
> For example, "the technique of inoculation was not invented by Jenner and
> Pasteur but was devised in the Muslim world and brought to Europe from
> Turkey by the wife of the English ambassador to Istanbul in 1724. Children
> in Turkey were vaccinated with cowpox to fight the deadly smallpox at
> least 50 years before the West discovered it."
> Also, "Ali ibn Nafi, known by his nickname of Ziryab (Blackbird) came from
> Iraq to Cordoba in the 9th century and brought with him the concept of the
> three-course meal - soup, followed by fish or meat, then fruit and nuts.
> He also introduced crystal glasses (which had been invented after
> experiments with rock crystal by Abbas ibn Firnas)."
> and, "the modern cheque comes from the Arabic saqq, a written vow to pay
> for goods when they were delivered, to avoid money having to be
> transported across dangerous terrain. In the 9th century, a Muslim
> businessman could cash a cheque in China drawn on his bank in Baghdad."
> See also the link to
> For example, "Long before Copernicus
> "Did you know that long before Copernicus astronomer Ibn Al-Shatir in the
> 13th century figure out that despite appearances the earth revolved around
> the sun. It remains controversial whether Copernicus was directly
> influenced by al-Shatir's work. The idea of the movement of the planets is
> attributed to Kepler and Copernicus while not crediting the contribution
> of Ibn Al-Shatir. The fact is though the maths by Ibn al-Shatir are
> identical to those of Copernicus."
> Paul Z.
> ************************************************************************
> THE HIDDEN HISTORY OF 9-11-2001, forthcoming in April 2006
> RESEARCH IN POLITICAL ECONOMY,  Paul Zarembka, editor,  Elsevier Science
> *********************

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