From: Paul Zarembka (zarembka@BUFFALO.EDU)
Date: Thu Jul 06 2006 - 15:21:05 EDT
Fred,
The book is White, J. D. 1996, Karl Marx and the Intellectual Origins of
Dialectical Materialism, Macmillian, London.
Paul Z.
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THE HIDDEN HISTORY OF 9-11-2001, P.Zarembka, ed, Elsevier, 2006
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/PZarembka/volume23.htm
-- "a benchmark in 9/11 research", reviewer
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On Thu, 6 Jul 2006, Fred Moseley wrote:
> Hi Jerry, thanks for retreiving this.
> And thanks to Paul for sending it.
>
> I don't know the book. What is it?
>
> Comradely, Fred
>
>
> Quoting ope-admin@RICARDO.ECN.WFU.EDU:
>
> > Fred:
> >
> > I believe this is the post you wanted to see. Do you have any
> > opinions about White's argument ... or his book?
> >
> > In solidarity, Jerry
> > Brooklin, ME
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
> > Subject: Re: [OPE-L] ISMT Conference in July on Marx and MEGA 2
> > From: "Paul Zarembka" <zarembka@BUFFALO.EDU>
> > Date: Sat, July 1, 2006 2:30 pm
> > To: OPE-L@SUS.CSUCHICO.EDU
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > J.D. White's provocative argument is that "Results of the Immediate
> > Process of Production" was left out of the published version of Vol. I
> > because 'subsumption', its main theoretical concept, didn't work to
> > link Vol. I and Vol. III. 'Subsumption' was even deleted where Marx
> > had been in drafts for earlier parts of Vol. I.
> >
> > Sometimes it is argued the dropping of 'Results' was not a significant
> > act on Marx's part. This avoids issues at stake.
> >
> > Paul Z.
> >
> > Quoting Michael Heinrich <m.heinrich@PROKLA.DE>:
> >
> > > Jerry,
> > >
> > > the case is a little bit more complicated. When we look at the
> > > edited
> > > three volumes of "Capital" we can say, that the draft of the edited
> > > vol.
> > > 3 was written before the drafts of the edited vol. 2. But Marx
> > > wrote
> > > much more than the drafts, which Engels used for the edition.
> > > Therefore
> > > the order of writing is not just vol.3 - vol. 1 - vol. 2.
> > >
> > > In 1863-65 Marx wrote drafts for all three (theoretical) books of
> > > "Capital" (we must distinguish volume and book to understand Marx
> > > letters correctly. He planned to write four books, in three volumes,
> > > but
> > > the content of the volumes changed). He started 1863/64 with the
> > > draft
> > > of book I (the only part which remained is "Results of the immediate
> > > process of production"). After finishing the draft of book I, he
> > > continued with book III (1864/65), but rather soon (during the first
> > > three chapters, what became later the first three sections) he
> > > interrupted and wrote a draft of book II. After finishing this draft
> > > he
> > > continued with book III and stopped his work at the end of 1865
> > > (with
> > > the unfinished chapter on classes). In January 1866 he started to
> > > prepare book I for publishing (he thought, that vol.1 could include
> > > book
> > > I and II). After publishing book I in vol. 1 (1867) he tried to
> > > prepare
> > > vol. 2 (which now should include book II and III) and for this he
> > > started reworking his draft on book II and a number of new drafts
> > > for
> > > book II emerged. When Engels edited vol. 2 (containing book 2) he
> > > used
> > > only the more recent manuscripts and not the manuscript of 1863-64.
> > > But
> > > for book III, Engels must use the "old" manuscript of 1864/65.
> > >
> > > The precise order of writing was determined by different factors:
> > > what
> > > was clear for Marx and, what was an open question (for example that
> > > Marx
> > > in 1864 started with book III after finishing book I may have had
> > > the
> > > reason, that he wanted to write down something what was clear to
> > > him,
> > > but then he realized, that he also needed some results of book II
> > > and
> > > therefore he interrupted the work on book III) and especially in the
> > > seventies the wish to publish vol. 2 determined Marx to concentrate
> > > on
> > > book II.
> > >
> > > In solidarity
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > ope-admin@RICARDO.ECN.WFU.EDU schrieb:
> > >
> > > >Michael H et al,
> > > >
> > > >What do we know about _why_ Marx wrote the drafts in the order in
> > > >which he did? I.e. _why_ did he write the drafts for what became
> > > >Volume 3 of _Capital_ before writing Volume I?; why did he write
> > > the
> > > >drafts for most of what became Volume 2 after writing the drafts
> > > for
> > > >what became Volume 3 and Volume 1?
> > > >
> > > >My supposition -- subject to correction -- is that _it didn't
> > > matter_
> > > >what order he wrote the volumes of _Capital_, but that still
> > > doesn't
> > > >answer the question _why_, does it?
> > > >
> > > >In solidarity, Jerry
> > > >Somesville, MDI
> >
>
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