From: Fred Moseley (fmoseley@MTHOLYOKE.EDU)
Date: Thu Jul 06 2006 - 11:41:15 EDT
Hi Jerry, thanks for retreiving this. And thanks to Paul for sending it. I don't know the book. What is it? Comradely, Fred Quoting ope-admin@RICARDO.ECN.WFU.EDU: > Fred: > > I believe this is the post you wanted to see. Do you have any > opinions about White's argument ... or his book? > > In solidarity, Jerry > Brooklin, ME > > > ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- > Subject: Re: [OPE-L] ISMT Conference in July on Marx and MEGA 2 > From: "Paul Zarembka" <zarembka@BUFFALO.EDU> > Date: Sat, July 1, 2006 2:30 pm > To: OPE-L@SUS.CSUCHICO.EDU > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > J.D. White's provocative argument is that "Results of the Immediate > Process of Production" was left out of the published version of Vol. I > because 'subsumption', its main theoretical concept, didn't work to > link Vol. I and Vol. III. 'Subsumption' was even deleted where Marx > had been in drafts for earlier parts of Vol. I. > > Sometimes it is argued the dropping of 'Results' was not a significant > act on Marx's part. This avoids issues at stake. > > Paul Z. > > Quoting Michael Heinrich <m.heinrich@PROKLA.DE>: > > > Jerry, > > > > the case is a little bit more complicated. When we look at the > > edited > > three volumes of "Capital" we can say, that the draft of the edited > > vol. > > 3 was written before the drafts of the edited vol. 2. But Marx > > wrote > > much more than the drafts, which Engels used for the edition. > > Therefore > > the order of writing is not just vol.3 - vol. 1 - vol. 2. > > > > In 1863-65 Marx wrote drafts for all three (theoretical) books of > > "Capital" (we must distinguish volume and book to understand Marx > > letters correctly. He planned to write four books, in three volumes, > > but > > the content of the volumes changed). He started 1863/64 with the > > draft > > of book I (the only part which remained is "Results of the immediate > > process of production"). After finishing the draft of book I, he > > continued with book III (1864/65), but rather soon (during the first > > three chapters, what became later the first three sections) he > > interrupted and wrote a draft of book II. After finishing this draft > > he > > continued with book III and stopped his work at the end of 1865 > > (with > > the unfinished chapter on classes). In January 1866 he started to > > prepare book I for publishing (he thought, that vol.1 could include > > book > > I and II). After publishing book I in vol. 1 (1867) he tried to > > prepare > > vol. 2 (which now should include book II and III) and for this he > > started reworking his draft on book II and a number of new drafts > > for > > book II emerged. When Engels edited vol. 2 (containing book 2) he > > used > > only the more recent manuscripts and not the manuscript of 1863-64. > > But > > for book III, Engels must use the "old" manuscript of 1864/65. > > > > The precise order of writing was determined by different factors: > > what > > was clear for Marx and, what was an open question (for example that > > Marx > > in 1864 started with book III after finishing book I may have had > > the > > reason, that he wanted to write down something what was clear to > > him, > > but then he realized, that he also needed some results of book II > > and > > therefore he interrupted the work on book III) and especially in the > > seventies the wish to publish vol. 2 determined Marx to concentrate > > on > > book II. > > > > In solidarity > > Michael > > > > ope-admin@RICARDO.ECN.WFU.EDU schrieb: > > > > >Michael H et al, > > > > > >What do we know about _why_ Marx wrote the drafts in the order in > > >which he did? I.e. _why_ did he write the drafts for what became > > >Volume 3 of _Capital_ before writing Volume I?; why did he write > > the > > >drafts for most of what became Volume 2 after writing the drafts > > for > > >what became Volume 3 and Volume 1? > > > > > >My supposition -- subject to correction -- is that _it didn't > > matter_ > > >what order he wrote the volumes of _Capital_, but that still > > doesn't > > >answer the question _why_, does it? > > > > > >In solidarity, Jerry > > >Somesville, MDI > ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
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