From: ajit sinha (sinha_a99@YAHOO.COM)
Date: Tue Nov 28 2006 - 10:20:20 EST
--- Dogan Goecmen <Dogangoecmen@AOL.COM> wrote: ____________________________ > Actually, I do not understand why "labor" is > particularly important in the context of production > of > profit. Do we think that "surplus" cannot be > produced > without labor? But why can't we imagine a system of > production completely operated by robots? In this > case, why can't we imagine the system producing a > "surplus" and a market with prices of commodities > with > a rate of profits to boot. The question is, can we > make a logical claim that a system of production > without labor will not be able to produce "surplus". > If not, then there is a serious problem with Marx's > concept of "surplus value". Cheers, ajit sinha __________________________ > Ajit, surplus value theory is not unique to Marx. > Rather it is one of the > most central categories of political economy. If it > was possible to produce > value without labourers capitalists would have not > employed workers at all. Your > rhetorical question implies that production can take > place without human > beings. If this is what you mean, this a science > fiction. Regards, Dogan _______________________________ Dogan, Thank you for letting me know that "surplus value is one of the central categories of political economy". I would have simply ignored your patronising comment if it was true. But I'm sorry to inform you that you are wrong and you need to go back to your basics of political economy. The notion of surplus value is unique to Marx. I don't know if my English is so complicated that you cannot understand anything I have written. Where did I write capitalists can produce without labor now? And where did you get the idea that my question is a rhetorical one? It is a question of logical possibility. If a science fiction is logically possible, then that is a good logical challange to any theory that contradicts it. Cheers, ajit sinha ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited
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