From: Dogan Goecmen (Dogangoecmen@AOL.COM)
Date: Wed Nov 29 2006 - 13:35:22 EST
In einer eMail vom 29.11.2006 19:24:47 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt Gerald_A_Levy@MSN.COM: "If human beings become merely observers to the production process can it still be said that they are engaged in production labor?" I would say 'yes' because it is socially necessary labour and it is part of production. Hi Dogan: 'Guard labor' -- what I referred to previously -- does not produce commodities but rather protects their ownership. From an individual capitalist perspective, they -- like lawyers -- may be deemed necessary, but they do not themselves produce commodities. Hi Jerry: I agree with you on this. The point I was making by relying on Marx was thinking of an entirely new social framework of production. In other wors, I was refering to the potentialities which may be brought to acctuality if social relations were chnaged toward socialist forms of ownership. Cheers Dogan In solidarity, Jerry
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