From: Ian Hunt (ian.hunt@FLINDERS.EDU.AU)
Date: Mon Dec 04 2006 - 18:17:05 EST
Sorry for repeating myself. I thought my earlier reply went to Michael as it initially did not come through. >Well, yes. The US government has made much of this commitment: it was >articulated by the US ambassador to Bolivia after an unwelcome result >there. My use of the words "no doubt" implied some skepticism as to >the depth of this commitment. Incidentally, since the US government >labels Hamas a "terrorist" organization and withdraws any >commitments, including those to international law, when dealing with >"terrorist" organizations, it is hardly surprising that it did not >honour its proclaimed commitment in that case. > >>Michael, >> My guess is that Ian meant: "the *supposed* or *proclaimed* US >>commitment. . ." The hypocrisy of the US government on the subject of >>elections is legendary. >> Question: aside from the percentage figures, did we make the ten million >>votes goal? That was a symbolic target for the Chazez coalition. Any >>word on that yet? >> David >> >>> There is no such commitment--- or don't you remember Hamas' democratic >>> victory? >>> m >>> >>> At 23:14 03/12/2006, you wrote: >>>>A good result. The US commitment to support of duly elected leaders >>>>will no doubt be tested by this. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>On 04/12/2006, at 1:18 PM, michael a. lebowitz wrote: >>>> >>>>>OK, the electoral council has just announced in the basis of 78% >>>>>returns so far that Chavez has 61.4 and Rosales 38. 3. >>>>> m >>>>>-------------------- >>>>> >>>>>Well, if the exit polls are to be believed, Chavez won handily. >>>>>Most recent ones I've heard informally have Chavez at 67%. Reuters >>>>>has reported one from a pollster who worked for PDVSA and had >>>>>pre-election polls of 59% as saying the exit poll results now are >>>>>confirming these. Here are some others reported (though >>>>>misinformation reigns there) on various blogs: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Exit Polls de ultima hora: Comando Miranda (Actualizado: Chavez >>>>>>71% Rosales 28%). Comando Rosales: Chavez 51%, Rosales 47%. >>>>>>Sumate: Chavez 48%, Rosales 52%. Globovision: Chavez 58%, Rosales 41%. >>>>>>5:20 -- MARCEL GRANIER RECONOCE TRIUNFO DE CHAVEZ >>>>>>El presidente de las empresas 1BC Marcel Granier le reconocio al >>>>>>Vicepresidente de la Republica Bolivariana de Venezuela Jose >>>>>>Vicente Rangel que ha ganado Chavez el proceso del 3D, al Igual >>>>>>que la Cadena Capriles y venevision segun sus Exit pool reconocen >>>>>>el triunfo de Hugo Chavez. >>>>>>3:50 pm -- EXIT POOL EMPRESAS POLAR >>>>>>PROYECCIONES A BOCA DE URNA A ESTA HORA DE LA TARDE EN CALIENTE. >>>>>> CHAVEZ -->64% >>>>>> ROSALES-->33% >>>>>>SE ESTAN TOTALIZANDO LAS ENCUESTAS FINALES DE BOCA DE URNA DE >>>>>>NUESTRO SALA DE INFORMACION PARA SER PUBLICADAS. >>>>>>3:45 -- EXIT POLL DE VENEVISION >>>>>>Encuesta realizada A BOCA DE URNA hoy a por VENEVISION: >>>>>>CHAVEZ 63% >>>>>>ROSALES 37% >>>>>>ESTAMOS TOTALIZANDO NUESTROS DATOS PARA NUESTRO EXIT POOL >>>>>>2:27 pm -- EXIT POLL HASTA ESTA HORA >>>>>>INFORMACION HASTA ESTA HORA EN PROYECCIONES RECOGIDAS A BOCA DE >>>>>>URNA REALIZADA POR: >>>>>>--VICEPRESIDENCIA-- >>>>>>67%--> CHAVEZ >>>>>>33%--> ROSALES >>>>>>2:00 pm -- PROYECCIONES HASTA ESTA HORA >>>>>>Encuesta realizada A BOCA DE URNA hoy a por VENEVISION: >>>>>>CHAVEZ 63% >>>>>>ROSALES 37% >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Michael A. Lebowitz >>>>>Professor Emeritus >>>>>Economics Department >>>>>Simon Fraser University >>>>>Burnaby, B.C., Canada V5A 1S6 >>>>> >>>>>Currently based in Venezuela. >>>>>NOTE NEW PHONE NUMBERS >>>>>Can be reached at >>>>>Residencias Anauco Suites >>>>>Departamento 601 >>>>>Parque Central, Zona Postal 1010, Oficina 1 >>>>>Caracas, Venezuela >>>>>(58-212) 573-6333, 571-1520, 571-3820 (or hotel cell: 0412-200-7540) >>>>>fax: (58-212) 573-7724 >>> >>> Michael A. Lebowitz >>> Professor Emeritus >>> Economics Department >>> Simon Fraser University >>> Burnaby, B.C., Canada V5A 1S6 >>> >>> Currently based in Venezuela. >>> NOTE NEW PHONE NUMBERS >>> Can be reached at >>> Residencias Anauco Suites >>> Departamento 601 >>> Parque Central, Zona Postal 1010, Oficina 1 >>> Caracas, Venezuela >>> (58-212) 573-6333, 571-1520, 571-3820 (or hotel cell: 0412-200-7540) >>> fax: (58-212) 573-7724 >>> > > >-- >Associate Professor Ian Hunt, >Dept of Philosophy, School of Humanities, >Director, Centre for Applied Philosophy, >Flinders University of SA, >Humanities Building, >Bedford Park, SA, 5042, >Ph: (08) 8201 2054 Fax: (08) 8201 2784 -- Associate Professor Ian Hunt, Dept of Philosophy, School of Humanities, Director, Centre for Applied Philosophy, Flinders University of SA, Humanities Building, Bedford Park, SA, 5042, Ph: (08) 8201 2054 Fax: (08) 8201 2784
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