From: Ian Hunt (ian.hunt@FLINDERS.EDU.AU)
Date: Mon Dec 04 2006 - 18:04:46 EST
Well, yes. The US government has made much of this commitment: it was articulated by the US ambassador to Bolivia after an unwelcome result there. My use of the words "no doubt" implied some skepticism as to the depth of this commitment. Incidentally, since the US government labels Hamas a "terrorist" organization and withdraws any commitments, including those to international law, when dealing with "terrorist" organizations, it is hardly surprising that it did not honour its proclaimed commitment in that case. >Michael, > My guess is that Ian meant: "the *supposed* or *proclaimed* US >commitment. . ." The hypocrisy of the US government on the subject of >elections is legendary. > Question: aside from the percentage figures, did we make the ten million >votes goal? That was a symbolic target for the Chazez coalition. Any >word on that yet? > David > > >> There is no such commitment--- or don't you remember Hamas' democratic >> victory? >> m >> >> At 23:14 03/12/2006, you wrote: >>>A good result. The US commitment to support of duly elected leaders >>>will no doubt be tested by this. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>On 04/12/2006, at 1:18 PM, michael a. lebowitz wrote: >>> >>>>OK, the electoral council has just announced in the basis of 78% >>>>returns so far that Chavez has 61.4 and Rosales 38. 3. >>>> m >>>>-------------------- >>>> >>>>Well, if the exit polls are to be believed, Chavez won handily. >>>>Most recent ones I've heard informally have Chavez at 67%. Reuters >>>>has reported one from a pollster who worked for PDVSA and had >>>>pre-election polls of 59% as saying the exit poll results now are >>>>confirming these. Here are some others reported (though >>>>misinformation reigns there) on various blogs: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Exit Polls de ultima hora: Comando Miranda (Actualizado: Chavez >>>>>71% Rosales 28%). Comando Rosales: Chavez 51%, Rosales 47%. >>>>>Sumate: Chavez 48%, Rosales 52%. Globovision: Chavez 58%, Rosales 41%. >>>>>5:20 -- MARCEL GRANIER RECONOCE TRIUNFO DE CHAVEZ >>>>>El presidente de las empresas 1BC Marcel Granier le reconocio al >>>>>Vicepresidente de la Republica Bolivariana de Venezuela Jose >>>>>Vicente Rangel que ha ganado Chavez el proceso del 3D, al Igual >>>>>que la Cadena Capriles y venevision segun sus Exit pool reconocen >>>>>el triunfo de Hugo Chavez. >>>>>3:50 pm -- EXIT POOL EMPRESAS POLAR >>>>>PROYECCIONES A BOCA DE URNA A ESTA HORA DE LA TARDE EN CALIENTE. >>>>> CHAVEZ -->64% >>>>> ROSALES-->33% >>>>>SE ESTAN TOTALIZANDO LAS ENCUESTAS FINALES DE BOCA DE URNA DE >>>>>NUESTRO SALA DE INFORMACION PARA SER PUBLICADAS. >>>>>3:45 -- EXIT POLL DE VENEVISION >>>>>Encuesta realizada A BOCA DE URNA hoy a por VENEVISION: >>>>>CHAVEZ 63% >>>>>ROSALES 37% >>>>>ESTAMOS TOTALIZANDO NUESTROS DATOS PARA NUESTRO EXIT POOL >>>>>2:27 pm -- EXIT POLL HASTA ESTA HORA >>>>>INFORMACION HASTA ESTA HORA EN PROYECCIONES RECOGIDAS A BOCA DE >>>>>URNA REALIZADA POR: >>>>>--VICEPRESIDENCIA-- >>>>>67%--> CHAVEZ >>>>>33%--> ROSALES >>>>>2:00 pm -- PROYECCIONES HASTA ESTA HORA >>>>>Encuesta realizada A BOCA DE URNA hoy a por VENEVISION: >>>>>CHAVEZ 63% >>>>>ROSALES 37% >>>> >>>> >>>>Michael A. Lebowitz >>>>Professor Emeritus >>>>Economics Department >>>>Simon Fraser University >>>>Burnaby, B.C., Canada V5A 1S6 >>>> >>>>Currently based in Venezuela. >>>>NOTE NEW PHONE NUMBERS >>>>Can be reached at >>>>Residencias Anauco Suites >>>>Departamento 601 >>>>Parque Central, Zona Postal 1010, Oficina 1 >>>>Caracas, Venezuela >>>>(58-212) 573-6333, 571-1520, 571-3820 (or hotel cell: 0412-200-7540) >>>>fax: (58-212) 573-7724 >> >> Michael A. Lebowitz >> Professor Emeritus >> Economics Department >> Simon Fraser University >> Burnaby, B.C., Canada V5A 1S6 >> >> Currently based in Venezuela. >> NOTE NEW PHONE NUMBERS >> Can be reached at >> Residencias Anauco Suites >> Departamento 601 >> Parque Central, Zona Postal 1010, Oficina 1 >> Caracas, Venezuela >> (58-212) 573-6333, 571-1520, 571-3820 (or hotel cell: 0412-200-7540) >> fax: (58-212) 573-7724 >> -- Associate Professor Ian Hunt, Dept of Philosophy, School of Humanities, Director, Centre for Applied Philosophy, Flinders University of SA, Humanities Building, Bedford Park, SA, 5042, Ph: (08) 8201 2054 Fax: (08) 8201 2784
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